[Discussion]Glint/X after glint nerf

[Discussion]Glint/X after glint nerf

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Posted by: Varezenem.2813

Varezenem.2813

I would like to see some discussion on glint/x nerf of survivability because of glint/shiro.
While it is agreeable that glint/shiro had a bit too much sustain other builds that relied on glint to be viable where hit hard as well.
Specifically in my case Glint/Ventari got hit quite a lot currently my sustain is around the same as my power survivalist ranger (in marauder) specially against condis.
My personal sugestion would be buffing ventari, Jalis and mallyx survivability to compensate.

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Posted by: gannondorf.7628

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Yes that’s the fact. Glint is already the power core of the revenant, she’s the legend that can tank, support and dps. Jalis, who is supposed to be the tank guy, is like a shadow under glint power, he need rework yes, and it would offer more builds that the only power build (shiro/glint) we have for now. Mallyx is not designed to be survivable, only survivable to conditions. He was originaly intended to be the condition eater guy, but after BW2 he is now the condition dealer legend and condition eater one. He is in a strange place when a loot of corruption traits are no more viable and utilies needs a rework coz he lost his identity. But i think it’s not his survivability that we need to buff or rework. Ventari is just for healing, but it’s clunky, you can really use it for yourself, it’s more supportive healing to team. I think he is great, a bit clunky but great, need just a WATER field instead the actual light one.

But yeah, the actual nerf of Glint show to revenants that they have only two viable legends on five and, that they need to adapt coz they can"t really play something else. I’m not really against these nerfs (at last glint’s nerfs) glint was too much survivable for a legend not designed for that. She was actually the survivable legend that Jalis must be.

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Posted by: Varezenem.2813

Varezenem.2813

Yes that’s the fact. Glint is already the power core of the revenant, she’s the legend that can tank, support and dps. Jalis, who is supposed to be the tank guy, is like a shadow under glint power, he need rework yes, and it would offer more builds that the only power build (shiro/glint) we have for now. Mallyx is not designed to be survivable, only survivable to conditions. He was originaly intended to be the condition eater guy, but after BW2 he is now the condition dealer legend and condition eater one. He is in a strange place when a loot of corruption traits are no more viable and utilies needs a rework coz he lost his identity. But i think it’s not his survivability that we need to buff or rework. Ventari is just for healing, but it’s clunky, you can really use it for yourself, it’s more supportive healing to team. I think he is great, a bit clunky but great, need just a WATER field instead the actual light one.

But yeah, the actual nerf of Glint show to revenants that they have only two viable legends on five and, that they need to adapt coz they can"t really play something else. I’m not really against these nerfs (at last glint’s nerfs) glint was too much survivable for a legend not designed for that. She was actually the survivable legend that Jalis must be.

I am aware of the fact that ventari is only meant for healing but so are druids and they have a far superior self heal. On ventari IMO the HP coefficients should be increased and of course tablet mobility (the largest complaint from the beginning).

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Posted by: gannondorf.7628

gannondorf.7628

Yes that’s the fact. Glint is already the power core of the revenant, she’s the legend that can tank, support and dps. Jalis, who is supposed to be the tank guy, is like a shadow under glint power, he need rework yes, and it would offer more builds that the only power build (shiro/glint) we have for now. Mallyx is not designed to be survivable, only survivable to conditions. He was originaly intended to be the condition eater guy, but after BW2 he is now the condition dealer legend and condition eater one. He is in a strange place when a loot of corruption traits are no more viable and utilies needs a rework coz he lost his identity. But i think it’s not his survivability that we need to buff or rework. Ventari is just for healing, but it’s clunky, you can really use it for yourself, it’s more supportive healing to team. I think he is great, a bit clunky but great, need just a WATER field instead the actual light one.

But yeah, the actual nerf of Glint show to revenants that they have only two viable legends on five and, that they need to adapt coz they can"t really play something else. I’m not really against these nerfs (at last glint’s nerfs) glint was too much survivable for a legend not designed for that. She was actually the survivable legend that Jalis must be.

I am aware of the fact that ventari is only meant for healing but so are druids and they have a far superior self heal. On ventari IMO the HP coefficients should be increased and of course tablet mobility (the largest complaint from the beginning).

Well i find personnaly myself that the heal is good. It’s less than a druid yes but druid was designed for being the healer and, even if it’s hybrid there is just gonna to be a ranger with little healing. Think about revenant they much more versatile, on paper(Glint/ventari, Jalis/Ventari, Shiro/ventari) than druids and rangers so i think this versatility will come with a cost, they are not the best healers. I don’t know if you see what i mean.

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Posted by: Varezenem.2813

Varezenem.2813

I do however even with the druid you have similar choices being respectively NM/BM druid and WS/NM druid and Skirmishing/MM Druid having even similar tradeoffs it might just be less obvious.
I wouldn’t classify glint/ventari as a hybrid since you have to give up around the same amount of other things in exchange for more support.

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Posted by: Star.8401

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I personally use Glint =/Malyx and Malyx actually does good damage in power build and helps me survive conditions.
I just wish the Glint heal wasnt nerfed to 3s. Other than that I really like my Glint/Malyx build.

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Posted by: Taldren.7523

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Glint / Shiro is already going down hill. Players are L2Ping and Glint heal is starting to become the worst of the bunch instead of Shiro.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

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It’s not even Glint’s heal. The big factor is access to Shield which is incredibly important against most professions (apart from Engineers with their unblockable stuff) and #5 which scales really good with any Healing Power.

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Posted by: The one to Rule.2593

The one to Rule.2593

Glint / Shiro is already going down hill. Players are L2Ping and Glint heal is starting to become the worst of the bunch instead of Shiro.

Glints heal is amazing, One of the best in the game.

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Posted by: SchmendrickTheMagician.8247

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Glint / Shiro is already going down hill. Players are L2Ping and Glint heal is starting to become the worst of the bunch instead of Shiro.

Glints heal is amazing, One of the best in the game.

Not if people stop attacking you for the brief duration that it’s up.

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Posted by: The one to Rule.2593

The one to Rule.2593

Glint / Shiro is already going down hill. Players are L2Ping and Glint heal is starting to become the worst of the bunch instead of Shiro.

Glints heal is amazing, One of the best in the game.

Not if people stop attacking you for the brief duration that it’s up.

Are you speaking in terms of pvp? Sure there will always be counter play but that doesn’t mean the skill itself isn’t good, though I was speaking from a pve perspective

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Posted by: XxsdgxX.8109

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Yep, glint is the worse heal if you receive little to no damage.

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