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Posted by: Jack Skywalker.5674

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This weapon is an addition for the core Revenant class,it’s designed around defence and applying pressure to enemies.

1. Mistfire Slash – the AA,its a red line blured with dark mist effect,range 900
2. Envoy of Wrath – jump in a targeted area and apply burning, range 600, combo finisher leap, cooldown 10
3. Amplified Surge – a delayed attack which deals burst damage. range 1500, cooldown 25
4. Mist barrier: Creates a line in target area through which foes can not pass. Provides a combo field smoke – duration 5 seconds,cooldown 40
5. Temporal anomaly – spin in place and deflect projectiles, cooldown 25

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Posted by: Crowley.8761

Crowley.8761

Too similiar to hammer and to be honest I’d want Greatsword to be a heavy melee wep in the same role as hammer is for ranged. I am all for a ranged weapon for our class but it would have to be condi focused as we lack any kind of ranged condi atm.

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Posted by: Jack Skywalker.5674

Jack Skywalker.5674

Too similiar to hammer and to be honest I’d want Greatsword to be a heavy melee wep in the same role as hammer is for ranged. I am all for a ranged weapon for our class but it would have to be condi focused as we lack any kind of ranged condi atm.

As far as ranged condi weapon goes Rym has an awesome suggestion for dagger main hand to fill that role. Also I fail to see the resemblance between hammer and my gs because: a hammer does not come with a jump and b hammer doesn’t have projectile reflect and the ability to grant stealth -> barrier in jump.

Also I just realized I kittened up,the 4 was supposed to prevent enemies from crossing not defend againts projectiles,my bad.

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Posted by: Euthymias.7984

Euthymias.7984

Still hoping for Shortbow. Its pretty underutilized as a weapon.

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Posted by: Jack Skywalker.5674

Jack Skywalker.5674

Still hoping for Shortbow. Its pretty underutilized as a weapon.

Not as underused as daggers as ranged weapons.

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Posted by: Buran.3796

Buran.3796

For the next expansion I would like a new ranged weapon, based on conditions or hybrid damage. Pistol main hand.

If not, I would like to see a greatsword, but that weapon as a ranged one is already isn’t novelty (Mesmer). So… I want my Rev with a combi bolter/plasma/ melta gun

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Posted by: Buran.3796

Buran.3796

Still hoping for Shortbow. Its pretty underutilized as a weapon.

Not as underused as daggers as ranged weapons.

That’s brilliant. I would vote mainhand dagger as a ranged weapon, as long as is viable for condition builds.

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Posted by: Jack Skywalker.5674

Jack Skywalker.5674

Here is the link for the dagger thing, talk about it at https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/revenant/Revenant-s-Main-Hand-Ranged-Dagger/first#post6164131 ; on this post please talk about my varriant of the Greatsword.

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Posted by: Burtnik.5218

Burtnik.5218

My condi rifle/lb is 100x better. Also i would like to see gs as single target power weapon assuming if i ever return to this game yet alone touch rev. Its too fun to play as squirrel.

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Posted by: Ryou.2398

Ryou.2398

I dont know man revenant just screams greatsword melee attacks with some ranged thrown in.

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Posted by: Jack Skywalker.5674

Jack Skywalker.5674

I felt like that at first…but then I started looking at the final arc for Bleach and was like….fast ranged spamable attacks with a snipe just my work. And if you don’t believe put the Kodan breastplate with the Kodan pants and see for yourself….if you can get an actual mask on him the better.

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Posted by: nicknamenick.2437

nicknamenick.2437

Smoke field + leap? + Burst attack?

Sounds like you want to play easy and snipe from Stealth..

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

I vote GS for Revenant!!!! But, make it like spear, having 2 AA skills, one ranged, one melee, and with condi.

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Posted by: Jack Skywalker.5674

Jack Skywalker.5674

Smoke field + leap? + Burst attack?

Sounds like you want to play easy and snipe from Stealth..

It is more tedious than Ranger longbow, because cast time + need to combo XD.

I vote GS for Revenant!!!! But, make it like spear, having 2 AA skills, one ranged, one melee, and with condi.

Wasn’t spear universaly acclaimed for being shaite on Revenant?

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

Smoke field + leap? + Burst attack?

Sounds like you want to play easy and snipe from Stealth..

It is more tedious than Ranger longbow, because cast time + need to combo XD.

I vote GS for Revenant!!!! But, make it like spear, having 2 AA skills, one ranged, one melee, and with condi.

Wasn’t spear universaly acclaimed for being shaite on Revenant?

It probably needs some tweaking, but honestly I kick kittens with it. I think people just get confused by it is all.

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Posted by: Gwaihir.1745

Gwaihir.1745

I want melee shortbow.

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Posted by: Burtnik.5218

Burtnik.5218

I want melee shortbow.

Warrior got melee longbow.

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Posted by: Knighthonor.4061

Knighthonor.4061

BLEEP NO!!! I want Melee hard hitting Tanky GreatSword
and Hard Hitting Burst Damage Great Axe

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Posted by: Loopgru.1026

Loopgru.1026

I’m with Knighthonor- rev already lacks a beefy melee greatweapon. Hammer is ranged, staff is more support-oriented, and sword is whippy. If they add GS to rev I really want it to be a beefy greatweapon-feeling melee weapon along the lines of ranger GS.

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Posted by: Ryou.2398

Ryou.2398

Hard hitting might be op with impossible odds but I agree for being a bust melee weapon more then a ranged weapons, but I don’t see why we can’t have obw or two hybrid of melee and ranged attacks from it

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Posted by: Ryou.2398

Ryou.2398

Hard hitting might be op with impossible odds but I agree for being a burst melee weapon more then a ranged weapons, but I don’t see why we can’t have obw or two hybrid of melee and ranged attacks from it

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Posted by: VocalThought.9835

VocalThought.9835

I don’t see it, but nice job putting it together. The only ranged weapon I see with the Rev is a Focus. One skill where it shoots a beam of immense heat and another where it opens a Rift in the sky causing your foes to float!

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Posted by: Jack Skywalker.5674

Jack Skywalker.5674

….So basicaly everyone is telling me to set the range of the AA to 130 and leave the rest of the skills as they are?

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Posted by: serj.8214

serj.8214

Double Dagers or GS for range weapons ^^

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Posted by: Jack Skywalker.5674

Jack Skywalker.5674

By Anet standards….double dagger counts as 2 weapons XD. Thanks for the upvote though.

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Posted by: Fade to Black.7042

Fade to Black.7042

Imo shortbow condi ranged and GS melee.

New elite spec Trahearne, who used a greatsword

GS melee rev is all i wan’t and it’ll make me quit the warrior as i love rev <3

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

Whatever ranged weapon the Revenant gets, it’ll be a 900 range weapon. In that case, you won’t see a Shortbow, especially a condi one.

As much as I love a GS in general and especially as a melee weapon, I doubt we’ll see one since it’s so common already. At best hope, the GS will be a 900 range weapon.

I also doubt they’ll ever put in a dagger main hand when the toon has a sword off hand.

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Posted by: Jack Skywalker.5674

Jack Skywalker.5674

Whatever ranged weapon the Revenant gets, it’ll be a 900 range weapon. In that case, you won’t see a Shortbow, especially a condi one.

As much as I love a GS in general and especially as a melee weapon, I doubt we’ll see one since it’s so common already. At best hope, the GS will be a 900 range weapon.

I also doubt they’ll ever put in a dagger main hand when the toon has a sword off hand.

I had no ideea there was a 1200 shortbow. As far as chances for new ranged weapons go,I divided my money on the following pattern:

shortbow – 20%chance
dagger as ranged – 25% (because I really liked Rym’s take on it)
gs as ranged – 10%
scepter – 20%
axe main hand ranged – 15%
rifle or pistol – 10%

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Posted by: Burtnik.5218

Burtnik.5218

Shortbow is a nope. 900 range is awful. I want rifle/lb. Just look at my baby;

1. Sphere of Anguish – Fire a shoot towards your target. Inflict increasing durations of torment, the farther away that your foe is from you.

-Damage; 135 (0.45)
-Torment:
800+ range – 5sec
400-800 range – 4sec
0-400 range – 3sec
-Combo Finisher: Physical Projectile 20%
-3/4 sec cast time
-Number of targets; 1

2. Venomous Spheres – Fire three poisoned spheres towards your foe.

-Damage (x3): 70 (0.20)
-Poison: 3x, 5 sec duration
-Cd; 4
-Cast time: 1sec
-Pierces
-Number of targets: 5
-Combo Finisher: Physical Projectile

3. Frigid Sphere – Fire a frigid sphere towards your foe deflecting projectiles on it way and chilling opponents as it pass through.

-Damage: 165 (0.5)
-Chill: 2 seconds
-Radius: 120
-Cd: 8
-Cast time: 1/4
-Combo Finisher: Physical Projectile
-Pierces
-Number of targets: 5
-Energy cost: 5

4. Igniting Sphere – Ignite target area, burning nearby foes.

-Damage (x4): 125 (0.4)
-Burning: 2x, 2sec
-Radius: 240
-Cd; 12
-Cast time: 3/4
-Combo Field: Fire
-Duration; 3 seconds
-Pulses: 4
-Ground targeted
-Number of targets: 5
-Energy cost: 10

5. Diabolic Eruption – Blast the ground, damaging and immobilizing your foes. Upon blasting shadowstep backward.

-Damage: 335 (1.0)
-Immobilize: 2sec
-Cast time: 1/2
-Cd: 15sec
-Number of targets: 5
-Shadowstep range: 600
-Combo Finisher: Blast
-Energy cost: 15

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

Zenith.7301

No thanks.

I’d rather they fix the other kittenty weapons we have already rather than introduce yet more weapons we won’t use or who’ll displace our current ones into disuse.

Ask Reapers how well the greatsword introduction went. It’s a garbage weapon.

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Posted by: iroh.2871

iroh.2871

Too many classes use the greatsword already. I’d like to see the class’s second ranged weapon be a little different just like it’s first.

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Posted by: Rekt.5360

Rekt.5360

Ranged should go to LB/Rifle, not GS< let the GS be melee, if anything for a melee wep they can still add main-hand axe or off-hand mace.

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Posted by: Lobo.1296

Lobo.1296

Personally, I’d rather see it as a hard hitting, close ranged weapon. Swords (and OH axe) does a fair job, but I’d rather see something like Hammer, but melee ranged.

Here is my idea:
1. Slash->Void Slash->Mist Slash (gain 1s quickness)
2. Blade of Disaster – Perform a large downward attack with the greatsword while summoning a massive sword from the mist that also drops onto attackers. (maul animation – attacks twice, sword attack is a blast finisher)
3. Circle of Ruin – Slash the sword in a circle creating an expanding unstable rift around you that damages foes and causes Torment. ( Berserker greatsword burst animation)
4. Mist Assault -Leap to target causing a burst of mist energy from your starting position, crippling foes where you left and causing vulnerability when you land-Leap finisher. Reduced recharge if first attack hits a target.(damage when you land and damage from where you left).
5. Mist Storm – Area is bombarded with mist energy, causing damage and burning (fire field) ->Rift Eruption. Cancel bombardment and strike your sword into the ground causing massive damage, knocking down foes and granting retaliation.

This is what I would love to see, a lot of movement a lot of bursty big hits, and some utility thrown in.

Personally, I wouldn’t like to see it tied to another elite spec, and instead just make it a baseline upgrade. Perhaps throw in a GS talent to one of the existing lines to give it a little more flavor.

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Lobo.1296

Also, I’m a little biased since I just finished my Twlight and I think the color scheme of it goes perfectly with the Rev.

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Posted by: Lemondish.3268

Lemondish.3268

Still hoping for Shortbow. Its pretty underutilized as a weapon.

I think Rifle is equally underutilized.

A shadow rifle has a neat sound to it.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

Not a fan of yet another Greatsword.

I’d like to see more underused weapon types.

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Posted by: Ghazan.9213

Ghazan.9213

They need a ranged Condi weapon.

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Posted by: Euthymias.7984

Euthymias.7984

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Posted by: serj.8214

serj.8214

GS is common as melee but as ranged not so even mesmers dont use it in 2\3 of time. So GS would be perfect ^^

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Posted by: lucadiro.4519

lucadiro.4519

Instead of a gs I would prefere 20x time a bow, with a dinamyc playstile like shortbow for thieves.

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