Guild Wars 2

How is herald going to be in PvE group support compared to Tempest and Guardian?

Herald probably has more boon output at the moment (while Glint has energy at least), but has literally ZERO aoe condi cleanse support (not to mention the low self cleanse).

Tempest can aoe heal conditions while sleeping, as Guardian, even dps one.

To achieve a similar result an Herald needs to stay in Mallyx form absorbing conditions from allies risking his life and completely giving up to Glint boon support except for Facet of Nature.

Discuss.

Herald and Revenant in general have few condi cleanses and stunbreaks (with the exception of Demon Stance of course). However this seems to follow a theme of how each Legend is specific to a different playstyle i.e. Shiro is outright physical damage, Ventari is active heals, Glint is group support, etc. You are right though that as of now, Mallyx is almost a must have if you want to be able to deal with condis and even then it is a risk when using his skills. Herald is probably just going to be the boon sharer which is always useful no matter what. Some condi cleanses could be tied into the utilities though….maybe the elite being like necro lich 5 where Glints wings would remove boons from enemies and condis from allies.

Kidel.2057:

…aoe condi cleanse support…

Three options:

- Staff on swap: lets you keep providing boons while minor condi removal AoE and perma-weakness on cleave. And good self-defense. At a cost of 30% damage loss or more, and the loss of a ranged option.

- Mallyx: doesn’t let you do both support and self-buffing of damage, though it conveniently has skills for both. Also means losing a trait line in most builds, though corruption is ok if you run mace. Similar to the staff choice in condi removal and self-defense, unsure about damage loss if you don’t run a condition build, but probably similar too.

- Ventari: lets you keep doing support when you need condi removal, at the cost of 1 trait line and the lack of fury upkeep, which together will mean more damage loss than staff. And a big loss in self-defense. This is the strongest group condi removal option, and support overall.

All those options greatly lower your dps. Guardian and Tempest don’t need to exchange so much.

Kidel.2057:

All those options greatly lower your dps. Guardian and Tempest don’t need to exchange so much.

Staff doesn’t reduce your damage until you need it (i.e. swap from sword), making it the least expensive way to make up for the gaps in what glint does (not that you’d run staff in a condi build ofc). Not comparing to other classes atm.