Guild Wars 2

Am I the only one finding heal skills on all legends except glint to be massively underwhelming? Even Shiro heal, while decent, falls so far below glint heal that it’s ridiculous. I think the fact that revs only have one reliable strong heal out of all the heal skills should say all that needs to be said right there…

i think glint’s needs to be toned down just a little. revenants can quickly use 2 heals in succession (1 for each legend), and i feel that is the reason why their healing skills are a little underwhelming

Raziel.8072:

Am I the only one finding heal skills on all legends except glint to be massively underwhelming? Even Shiro heal, while decent, falls so far below glint heal that it’s ridiculous. I think the fact that revs only have one reliable strong heal out of all the heal skills should say all that needs to be said right there…

Who needs heal with sooo many evades and blocks, giving it a stronger heal would make it op IMO.

Azazel.1540:

i think glint’s needs to be toned down just a little. revenants can quickly use 2 heals in succession (1 for each legend), and i feel that is the reason why their healing skills are a little underwhelming

They already did reduce it. Furthermore, the only reason I can imagine anyone wanting it reduced is in pvp, which makes this a learn to play issue. The base heal of the skill is quite low and depends on people attacking while it is up. Having said that, most revenants are in favor of a more obvious signal when it is active.

glints heal should be nore noticeable in pvp.

besides that, I love rev heals. Jalis heal is strong, mallyx is good, shiros is one of the best in the game, period, and shiros is great.

pop shiros heal, use hammer 4 for the dark field, 9 for quickness, and auto attack and full hp in a few seconds from range

I’ll probably get a lot of crap for this, but I think that the heal for Glint should be reduced by 33% while all the healing skills for the other legends should be buffed by about 33%.

I feel like I’m forced into Herald, especially in pvp, because a 5k heal, even two in a row is underwhelming compared to the instant heal of Glint on the same cd. The base of Jalis and Mallyx should be around 7k hp. Shiro is in a decent place right now due to the extra damage it provides.

If you’ve even tried playing sPvP right now without being a herald then you’re going to struggle. Yes, you can use two heals in a row, but the chances of you getting both casts off in a row when you’re being burst down is unlikely. Meanwhile, the Herald just has to switch over to glint and pop their heal, which has like no cast time at all, and take that burst dps and convert it into a full bar of health.

I would just enjoy not feeling pinholed into playing Herald just because the heal is too good while the other heals are lackluster in comparison.

Azazel.1540:

i think glint’s needs to be toned down just a little. revenants can quickly use 2 heals in succession (1 for each legend), and i feel that is the reason why their healing skills are a little underwhelming

well they’ve cut 25% the duration..it this aint a nerf….

I melee a lot with Rev. I intentionally set up skill combo to steal life.

Narth.6094:

I’ll probably get a lot of crap for this, but I think that the heal for Glint should be reduced by 33% while all the healing skills for the other legends should be buffed by about 33%.

I feel like I’m forced into Herald, especially in pvp, because a 5k heal, even two in a row is underwhelming compared to the instant heal of Glint on the same cd. The base of Jalis and Mallyx should be around 7k hp. Shiro is in a decent place right now due to the extra damage it provides.

If you’ve even tried playing sPvP right now without being a herald then you’re going to struggle. Yes, you can use two heals in a row, but the chances of you getting both casts off in a row when you’re being burst down is unlikely. Meanwhile, the Herald just has to switch over to glint and pop their heal, which has like no cast time at all, and take that burst dps and convert it into a full bar of health.

I would just enjoy not feeling pinholed into playing Herald just because the heal is too good while the other heals are lackluster in comparison.

^ This is pretty much how i feel right now, and I should clarify when I said they were underwhelming I mainly meant pvp/wvw. In PvE none of them are a real issue. Even after playing it more and not sucking as much as I did when I originally posted, I still feel this way. Every heal is too situational. If they don’t meet those situations, they fall flat on their face. Glint’s is the only one with some sustain and can hold out against being focused. The others aside from maybe dwarf feel like afterthoughts, tossed in to cover some stray aoe dmg. And to the people saying “just block/evade moar” that’s only gonna carry you so far. And by that I mean like 3 hits and a good player will wait out for you to blow all your endurance and blocks, plus by now most people know that if they force us to blow evades early in the fight we haven’t had enough time to build up sufficient energy and thus won’t be able to pop another right away.

That’s where heals are supposed to come in, to cover those gaps but currently only glint and loosely, jalis (if you have several non-damaging condis). To fix the others I think you either need to do what Narth suggested here, or add better conditional effects to the others. Ventari needs a small heal on yourself regardless of where the tablet is, mallyx needs to return some energy on heal, as much as I would love energy return based on number of condis, I can see that being stupidly op so it would most likely be a set amount. Shiro isnt bad, but that kitten ICD needs removing. When I’m counting on those siphons to sustain, I don’t wanna be hamstringed by ICD’s. Tbh Jalis is prob fine unless the cd could be tweaked some. Vengeful hammers do a good job of adding the much needed sustain to that.

I would love it if the herald heal was completely redone. Against smart opponents, it’s completely useless, and against brainless opponents, it’s amazing. Funny thing is, you never even need a heal against the bad ones.

And shiro heal isn’t meant to be used when you are nearing death. If you have very low life and you use the heal, you have to attack your opponent to heal further, which will get you killed more times than not.

I don’t think the healskills should be as powerful as on other professions… why? Because you have two of them! Balance guys :P

Seigfried.5938:

I would love it if the herald heal was completely redone. Against smart opponents, it’s completely useless, and against brainless opponents, it’s amazing. Funny thing is, you never even need a heal against the bad ones.

And shiro heal isn’t meant to be used when you are nearing death. If you have very low life and you use the heal, you have to attack your opponent to heal further, which will get you killed more times than not.

The problem is that soon or later you will be low and left olny with Shiro heal. Imo Shiro healing ability is a joke in current state, it may work in 1v1 but once focused..game over. Its also balanced around sword and its quite hard to proc with slow hammer. Shiro heal needs a rework.

Glint heal tho..even if you use it against smart opponent it depends on who you face. Warrior wont cancel his evi for example, neither mesmer his mirrow blade and shatter, dh traps etc. Thief on the other hand can negate it completely as hes going to tickle you around. Its actually funny to use glint heal vs another rev that just casted ua on you, imagine that frustraction when they cant cancel it healing them from low to full.