Guild Wars 2

Since almost all utility skills has a cd now (Jalis with 2×10cd), weapon skills cd’s arent shorter in comprasion to other classes either my solution is simple – rework legend swap and energy system.

Unlink weapon skills and utility skills from energy, give them normal ( a bit shorter tho) cd’s like for other classes – something like 45cd for jade winds, 25cd for Phase and 15cd for riposting shadows. Reason for shorter cd’s is the fact that rev is locked into skill package.

Remove legend swap cd and rework traits (in lazy way) by slapping 10 internal cd on stuff like empty vessel so you cant stun break over n over obviously. Add icon on bar so we can know when its up. Let us start up with 100 energy BUT legend swap wont provide any energy anymore nor reset it back to 50 on swap. Basically like thief ini. A slow regen over time.

At this point energy system will be used only for upkeep skills (after some rebalance) and rev no longer will be limited to autoatk for days. For once rev will be able to use skills along with upkeeps instead of being force into autoatk+upkeep. Its rather obvious that energy system has failed otherwise we wouldnt have cd’s on utility skills nor raised cd’s on wep skills.

Also an idea for impossible odds being useless with Chronos around. Remove quickness and replace it with 50% damage buff for the duration.

I know that at first it all sounds like a nerf but in practice its actually a buff. A needed one for a long time already.

Extra bonus could be to spend x amount of energy to gain few sec reduced cd’s for CORE rev as f2 key or expand it into “energy shield” like shrouds.

Won’t happen.
Why? Anet.

You’re asking for a massive rework of the class, that’s going to take a long time to code and implement.
Honestly, I don’t think Anet have the time or money to put that much effort into reworking a class that could be ameliorated with a couple of tweaks.

Actually Revs are fine atm pending how well the Ventari build pans out.

Right now it’s looking like a REAL support role class. People are seeing insane results with the build.

25sec phase Traversal and 15sec Riposting shadows would probably make me quit the game altogether.

allias.1420:

You’re asking for a massive rework of the class, that’s going to take a long time to code and implement.
Honestly, I don’t think Anet have the time or money to put that much effort into reworking a class that could be ameliorated with a couple of tweaks.

Honestly its not that much work as it looks like. What you need to do is determine what cd’s you want on these utility skills. They could do that in 1 patch and from that point tweak it. What would take some work is rebalancing upkeep skills. Also Glint sorta works like the descripted model here if you havent noticed it yet.

I am sick of these cd’s+energy cost for whatever reason they have there. Either cds or energy cost, not both. Jalis taunt was nerfed hard this patch for a mere 10 energy cost decrease.

Azukas.1426:

Actually Revs are fine atm pending how well the Ventari build pans out.

Right now it’s looking like a REAL support role class. People are seeing insane results with the build.

I didnt pick rev to play some freaking supp. Right now guardians feels like the real class i was interesed in that has everything – strong burst (and dps), reliable condi clear, reliable, healing, reliable stab, amazing sustain in general. The only thing it lack is mobility being honest but that is sorta fiixed with dh spec due to f1, f2 and bow. And rev mobility is not that good anymore either compared to thief/ranger/warrior. If Ji cd was reduced to 20sec it woulf feel like PT cause you aint in Shiro whole time anyway and you probably wont cast it more than once unless you chase someone.

Rev doesnt offer anything of those despite being the “death knight” of gw oriented at mass destruction while guardian is the one whos supposed to be more of a defensive/supp heavy class. Cute how they switched roles here. So no, rev is not fine by any means. Hes worst class in gw. And im not sure why anyone would want to replace chronos/druid with healbot rev even in pve raids.

Azukas.1426:

Actually Revs are fine atm pending how well the Ventari build pans out.

Right now it’s looking like a REAL support role class. People are seeing insane results with the build.

So funny

Burtnik.5218:

allias.1420:

You’re asking for a massive rework of the class, that’s going to take a long time to code and implement.
Honestly, I don’t think Anet have the time or money to put that much effort into reworking a class that could be ameliorated with a couple of tweaks.

Honestly its not that much work as it looks like. What you need to do is determine what cd’s you want on these utility skills. They could do that in 1 patch and from that point tweak it. What would take some work is rebalancing upkeep skills. Also Glint sorta works like the descripted model here if you havent noticed it yet.

I am sick of these cd’s+energy cost for whatever reason they have there. Either cds or energy cost, not both. Jalis taunt was nerfed hard this patch for a mere 10 energy cost decrease.

Azukas.1426:

Actually Revs are fine atm pending how well the Ventari build pans out.

Right now it’s looking like a REAL support role class. People are seeing insane results with the build.

I didnt pick rev to play some freaking supp. Right now guardians feels like the real class i was interesed in that has everything – strong burst (and dps), reliable condi clear, reliable, healing, reliable stab, amazing sustain in general. The only thing it lack is mobility being honest but that is sorta fiixed with dh spec due to f1, f2 and bow. And rev mobility is not that good anymore either compared to thief/ranger/warrior. If Ji cd was reduced to 20sec it woulf feel like PT cause you aint in Shiro whole time anyway and you probably wont cast it more than once unless you chase someone.

Rev doesnt offer anything of those despite being the “death knight” of gw oriented at mass destruction while guardian is the one whos supposed to be more of a defensive/supp heavy class. Cute how they switched roles here. So no, rev is not fine by any means. Hes worst class in gw. And im not sure why anyone would want to replace chronos/druid with healbot rev even in pve raids.

Go play a DH then because you’re just complaining about nothing. Ele has been pigeon holed into support for over a,year. Rev has for about 2 weeks.

You need to either embrace the changes or pick a new class to play.

p.s. I tried the build and I must say it was a refreshing change of pace. I only got about 670k healing my first go, but I attribute that to my own short comings.

Remove cd on utilities and remove energy cost of weaponskills.
Tweak it after that.
Dmg from weaponskills replenish energy.
Give all legends a stunbreak.
Rework and retweak traits, add flavor like they did with the new alacrity trait.
The herold mechanic should have different influences depending on legend.
Make jalis taunt AoE and give it a block based on duration.
Give shiro better life steal capabbilities.
Give Mallyx a condi cleanse/condi consume.

This isnt a major rework like above but rather concentrate on improving the class as it is and bring some things back to beta standards.

InsaneQR.7412:

Remove cd on utilities and remove energy cost of weaponskills.

There is a problem. They will never do that as you see with recent Jalis taunt change where they bumbed up cd from 5 to 10cd and reduced energy cost by joke 10. It ended up as huge nerf and yet it still can be reflected so you can taunt yourself, it can be strafed and what not..

Azukas.1426:

Burtnik.5218:

allias.1420:

You’re asking for a massive rework of the class, that’s going to take a long time to code and implement.
Honestly, I don’t think Anet have the time or money to put that much effort into reworking a class that could be ameliorated with a couple of tweaks.

Honestly its not that much work as it looks like. What you need to do is determine what cd’s you want on these utility skills. They could do that in 1 patch and from that point tweak it. What would take some work is rebalancing upkeep skills. Also Glint sorta works like the descripted model here if you havent noticed it yet.

I am sick of these cd’s+energy cost for whatever reason they have there. Either cds or energy cost, not both. Jalis taunt was nerfed hard this patch for a mere 10 energy cost decrease.

Azukas.1426:

Actually Revs are fine atm pending how well the Ventari build pans out.

Right now it’s looking like a REAL support role class. People are seeing insane results with the build.

I didnt pick rev to play some freaking supp. Right now guardians feels like the real class i was interesed in that has everything – strong burst (and dps), reliable condi clear, reliable, healing, reliable stab, amazing sustain in general. The only thing it lack is mobility being honest but that is sorta fiixed with dh spec due to f1, f2 and bow. And rev mobility is not that good anymore either compared to thief/ranger/warrior. If Ji cd was reduced to 20sec it woulf feel like PT cause you aint in Shiro whole time anyway and you probably wont cast it more than once unless you chase someone.

Rev doesnt offer anything of those despite being the “death knight” of gw oriented at mass destruction while guardian is the one whos supposed to be more of a defensive/supp heavy class. Cute how they switched roles here. So no, rev is not fine by any means. Hes worst class in gw. And im not sure why anyone would want to replace chronos/druid with healbot rev even in pve raids.

Go play a DH then because you’re just complaining about nothing. Ele has been pigeon holed into support for over a,year. Rev has for about 2 weeks.

You need to either embrace the changes or pick a new class to play.

p.s. I tried the build and I must say it was a refreshing change of pace. I only got about 670k healing my first go, but I attribute that to my own short comings.

I was originally supposed to ignore your posts as you have been trolling this subforum for a long time already but lol, literally.

“Revenant manipulate energy from the mists to invoke power of legends from the past, unleashing immense attacks that dominate foes and unleash chaos on the battlefield.”

I guess they should change the class description to

“Revenant manipulate energy from the mists to invoke power of tablet from the past, unleashing potato heals that provides chronos alacrity to allies and unleash peace and love on the battlefield.”

Or

“Guardians Revenants specialize in protective and defensive magic. A deep sense of loyalty to their allies fuels their passion and power. As a soldier profession, revenants wear heavy armor.”

Fact is people like you who complained about rev for no reason apart from l2p issues destroyed the class. First was survival, once that got nerfed, people started crying about mobility which got destroyed as well but it was still not enough. Despite already poor survival and average mobility people started complain about damage. Now rev is left with nothing. Thanks i guess. Its a perfect class to completely redo in current state.

Burtnik.5218:

Azukas.1426:

Burtnik.5218:

allias.1420:

You’re asking for a massive rework of the class, that’s going to take a long time to code and implement.
Honestly, I don’t think Anet have the time or money to put that much effort into reworking a class that could be ameliorated with a couple of tweaks.

Honestly its not that much work as it looks like. What you need to do is determine what cd’s you want on these utility skills. They could do that in 1 patch and from that point tweak it. What would take some work is rebalancing upkeep skills. Also Glint sorta works like the descripted model here if you havent noticed it yet.

I am sick of these cd’s+energy cost for whatever reason they have there. Either cds or energy cost, not both. Jalis taunt was nerfed hard this patch for a mere 10 energy cost decrease.

Azukas.1426:

Actually Revs are fine atm pending how well the Ventari build pans out.

Right now it’s looking like a REAL support role class. People are seeing insane results with the build.

I didnt pick rev to play some freaking supp. Right now guardians feels like the real class i was interesed in that has everything – strong burst (and dps), reliable condi clear, reliable, healing, reliable stab, amazing sustain in general. The only thing it lack is mobility being honest but that is sorta fiixed with dh spec due to f1, f2 and bow. And rev mobility is not that good anymore either compared to thief/ranger/warrior. If Ji cd was reduced to 20sec it woulf feel like PT cause you aint in Shiro whole time anyway and you probably wont cast it more than once unless you chase someone.

Rev doesnt offer anything of those despite being the “death knight” of gw oriented at mass destruction while guardian is the one whos supposed to be more of a defensive/supp heavy class. Cute how they switched roles here. So no, rev is not fine by any means. Hes worst class in gw. And im not sure why anyone would want to replace chronos/druid with healbot rev even in pve raids.

Go play a DH then because you’re just complaining about nothing. Ele has been pigeon holed into support for over a,year. Rev has for about 2 weeks.

You need to either embrace the changes or pick a new class to play.

p.s. I tried the build and I must say it was a refreshing change of pace. I only got about 670k healing my first go, but I attribute that to my own short comings.

I was originally supposed to ignore your posts as you have been trolling this subforum for a long time already but lol, literally.

“Revenant manipulate energy from the mists to invoke power of legends from the past, unleashing immense attacks that dominate foes and unleash chaos on the battlefield.”

I guess they should change the class description to

“Revenant manipulate energy from the mists to invoke power of tablet from the past, unleashing potato heals that provides chronos alacrity to allies and unleash peace and love on the battlefield.”

Or

“Guardians Revenants specialize in protective and defensive magic. A deep sense of loyalty to their allies fuels their passion and power. As a soldier profession, revenants wear heavy armor.”

Fact is people like you who complained about rev for no reason apart from l2p issues destroyed the class. First was survival, once that got nerfed, people started crying about mobility which got destroyed as well but it was still not enough. Despite already poor survival and average mobility people started complain about damage. Now rev is left with nothing. Thanks i guess. Its a perfect class to completely redo in current state.

You were one of the ones who thought the original inception of rev was balanced……

I rest my case.