How useful is Cruel Repercusions in pve?

How useful is Cruel Repercusions in pve?

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Posted by: LucianDK.8615

LucianDK.8615

I see pretty much every rev build for pve taking it, but it seems dubiously useful to me. Only a faint rarity of mobs blocks, like Smokescales. And what good is the damage buff if the mob still keeps blocking?

Cruel Repercusions seems intended to be paired with Malicious Reprisal, which allows you to strike through blocks. But i see no builds using that one, opting for Laceration instead.

How useful is Cruel Repercusions in pve?

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Posted by: Euthymias.7984

Euthymias.7984

I prefer Laceration seeing that you can get a damage boost from simply attacking constantly with Sword. Malicious Reprisal allows you to bypass Blocks, but its only for two hits on a 30 sec ICD (while CR’s +50% damage boost is once every 15secs), vs VLs 10% (at 5 stacks) constant upkeep.

On top of that, as you mentioned, mobs and bosses don’t really block often to trigger those traits…

How useful is Cruel Repercusions in pve?

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Posted by: LucianDK.8615

LucianDK.8615

Yes, but -WHY- take Cruel Repercusions if nothing really triggers it in pve? Thats my whole question.

I find Cleansing Channel to be a lot more useful, given our weakness to conditions.

How useful is Cruel Repercusions in pve?

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Posted by: Euthymias.7984

Euthymias.7984

Yes, but -WHY- take Cruel Repercusions if nothing really triggers it in pve? Thats my whole question.

I find Cleansing Channel to be a lot more useful, given our weakness to conditions.

If its a PVE Build (which is often optimized for damage and not much else), I assume its taken for use in the few cases where it can be triggered. The other traits in that tier, while having some use, aren’t going to contribute as big of a damage boost to you as that particular one when it does come into play. Meanwhile, Malicious Reprisal has to compete with Vicious Laceration.

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Posted by: Infusion.7149

Infusion.7149

It’s only absurdly strong in WvW, not even PvP because blocking isn’t that constant and you don’t really run hammer in PvP. The amount of aegis flying around in WvW is MUCH higher than anywhere else.

This means Malicious Reprisal + Cruel Repercussions becomes ridiculous.

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How useful is Cruel Repercusions in pve?

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Posted by: LucianDK.8615

LucianDK.8615

Yes, but -WHY- take Cruel Repercusions if nothing really triggers it in pve? Thats my whole question.

I find Cleansing Channel to be a lot more useful, given our weakness to conditions.

If its a PVE Build (which is often optimized for damage and not much else), I assume its taken for use in the few cases where it can be triggered. The other traits in that tier, while having some use, aren’t going to contribute as big of a damage boost to you as that particular one when it does come into play. Meanwhile, Malicious Reprisal has to compete with Vicious Laceration.

Mind elaborating on what few cases that can trigger Cruel Repercussions? Its the lack of such that makes me question its pve value.

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Posted by: Euthymias.7984

Euthymias.7984

^I think CR is also triggered by a few things:

-Attack negated because of invulnerability
-Attack negated because something’s using a blocking skill
-Attack negated through a Blind (Miss)

Not too sure if getting interrupted or an attack being evaded counts towards triggering it, but it probably doesn’t…