Guild Wars 2

The post i made a few days ago

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/revenant/Revenant-unplayable-without-Herald-spec/first#post6681791

I said rev was unplayable without herald spec, but had no idea how bad renegade was, none of the skills mesh, bow range is too short forcing you to fight in close combat (which is a terrible as you have no sustain weapons or skills), this class feels like you were burnt out with great ideas for the other professions and just rushed it out so you could get the expansion released

one year of nerfs and then you give us a backhand “buff” before the expansion so we will buy it?

no thanks, you have no clue what to do with revenat and renegade is proof of this.

Except you can play without Herald.

Renegade, in it’s current form, is basically the 3rd trait line for a PvE Condition based Mace/Axe build. The traits increase in bleed duration, bleed damage, and a total of 20% condition damage with 300 Ferocity from 10 Kalla’s Fervor should be higher DPS increase than Invocation or Herald can provide. So for PvE, a no Herald build will be just fine.

The main issue for the Revenant in competitive modes (WvW and PvP) is we lack the utility build diversity to handle conditions outside of Mallyx’s Resistance buff which simultaneously is being destroyed with the huge amount of new boon strip/conversion they’re adding. This forces us more and more into Retribution and Herald just to be able to survive in these game modes which means Renegade or any new Legend will never be a serious option without their utilities and lines adding additional condition removal or defenses.

Renegade feels like it was designed by someone who doesn’t really play or know the Revenant. Everything has cast times, energy cost and cool downs which the whole point of the Revenant was meant to be about energy management. It’s like they heard the cries of “We want ranged condi damage!” then took the ideas they had abandoned on other classes (IE: Engineer shooting things through portals, shooting missiles to a point instead of like a shot gun, etc) and slapped it on to the Renegade.

Kodiak said it all.
The excessive weakness to conditions makes no sense in the current meta.
Jalis should heal 3 conditions and legend swap should heal 2. And I still think this would be not enough.