Is condi cleanse solved?
we have resistance and much protection healing and regain, i thinking having condi cleanse would be too much
It means a lot, since shiro+glint has no condi cleanse.
With all the Fury we get from Glint we can finally take that condi cleanse on legendswap from Invocation. Is it going to be enough? 1 condition every 10 seconds.
LOL, I thought of you when I saw that. Maybe that plus the cleansing sigil?
I’m thinking about that, but it will be impossible to test in the next beta
I’m thinking about that, but it will be impossible to test in the next beta
How is it impossible and what playmode?
No way to get that sigil anymore on my beta Rev, since it wasn’t in my bank when beta slot was reset.
But yeah, can be tested in pvp area at least. Wanted to try dungeons however.
Could you delete the rev (or another character) and make a new one?
Yes, its solved. When Condi’s get put on you, you have Mallyx, a ton of -condi duration and tough it out, friends or you get killed.
Working as intended.
With all the Fury we get from Glint we can finally take that condi cleanse on legendswap from Invocation. Is it going to be enough? 1 condition every 10 seconds.
Depends on what game mode we’re talking about.
PvE: The traitlines of choice will be Devastation 3-1-3, Invocation 1-1-2 (giving acces to the Cleansing Channel), Herald 3-2-1, Weapons of Choice will be Sword+Sword: AA will be the top damage dealing for Revenant, UA is free 7 might it has a block which is nice, Staff: Good burst damage with an evade, an extra heal that is a blast finisher with decent CD, a daze for interrupts and blinds+block. Legends of choice depend on group situation, most personal DPS: Shiro/Glint for impossible odds uptime increasing AA of Sword, Jade Winds for CC, Glint it’s just a must thanks to facet of Strength and Darkness alone. Most party utility: Ventari/Glint. In Ventari we have projectile destruction, tons of healing bursts and a heal that removes 3 condis. If you still need more condi cleanse in PvE (which IMO isn’t needed) you can sacrifice personal DPS and switch out Invocation for Salvation for the sake of clenase on dodge and better burst healing, Armor will be assassin’s with zerker trinkets and scholar runes and power+precision food.
WvW: Depends on the whole frontline/backline, but again my bet goes to Either Jalis+Ventari, Ventari+Glint or Jalis+Glint, weapons stay the same, Soldier instead of Assassin’s and traits will more than likely be Salvation/Retribution, Devastation and Herald, I don’t like WvW a lot because I do not enjoy zerg fights and roaming is quite slow, I might be wrong.
PvP: Depends on role, as a far pont assaulter/roamer, I think Marauder with the same weapons as PvE with Devastation, Corruption and Invocation/Herald is more viable now with the changes done to traits and skills on Swords and Staff, Legends could be a though pick.
A sort of hybrid bunker running herald could be strong too in team fights, I really don’t see Shield being useful at all IMO, but it would make mandatory to run Jalis or Ventari for condition cleanse or even Malyx (resistance on LDS proc + Facet of Nature) if running Glint, maybe with Hoelbrak runes and sigil of generosity/energy in staff you can have some sort of condi management if you run Shiro, but I see it mandatory to have another legend as option to condi cleanse paired with Glint to make Herald viable for sPvP .
My bet is that the strongest Glint Spec will Run Devastation, Corruption, Herald with Celestial Amulet, Hoelbrak runes, Mace/Axe+Staff, Battle+Intelligence on MH and Energy+Generosity OH, 2 blast finishers, facet of strength and darkness give you nice might uptime, you have fury uptime too thanks to facet of darkness and sigil proc+legendswap+resistance for condition management.
if condies prove to be a really big problem for revenants during the next beta i am sure it will be addressed, however i think built in weaknesses are good design for any profession. not all professions can do everything and in the case of the revenant maybe being weak to conditions is our Achilles heel
Only Mallyx, and by extension, condition or hybrid Revenants have Resistance at all. Any mix of Shiro, Glint and Jalis has no resistance or (offensive) condition removal at all, beyond 3 every 30 seconds on the Jalis heal. With how bad burning is right now, Revenants will never be totally okay without some form of removal. A single burn combo can be 10-24k damage and if your 1 condition (literally, 1 condition) every 10 seconds removes some off-condition instead, you’re done for.
Mallyx and Ventari do not need any help with conditions, that’s true. But power DPS oriented Revenants will be lost without it or some type of reliable Resistance uptime.
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Only Mallyx, and by extension, condition or hybrid Revenants have Resistance at all. Any mix of Shiro, Glint and Jalis has no resistance or (offensive) condition removal at all, beyond 3 every 30 seconds on the Jalis heal. With how bad burning is right now, Revenants will never be totally okay without some form of removal. A single burn combo can be 10-24k damage and if your 1 condition (literally, 1 condition) every 10 seconds removes some off-condition instead, you’re done for.
Mallyx and Ventari do not need any help with conditions, that’s true. But power DPS oriented Revenants will be lost without it or some type of reliable Resistance uptime.
Really I just had problems against Necros, Rangers, Mesmers and Thieves but not other professions, the only problem with conditions was that Necro could just ditch my burst with Shroud and heal while I was out of energy and then just spam conditions
and since I was low on energy plus no condi removal you can guess, Rangers, Mesmers and Thieves did sort of the same, except that they usually went to stealth when the burst got them to 50-60% healed/used counterpressure and then just burst me in the same conditions (lack of energy). All the other builds weren’t much of a problem, even S/S bleedspam Warrior, Condition Engineer and Condition Ranger, then again I was running Malyx+Resistance and Shiro + S/A and Staff
With all the Fury we get from Glint we can finally take that condi cleanse on legendswap from Invocation. Is it going to be enough? 1 condition every 10 seconds.
Depends on what game mode we’re talking about.
PvE: The traitlines of choice will be Devastation 3-1-3, Invocation 1-1-2 (giving acces to the Cleansing Channel), Herald 3-2-1, Weapons of Choice will be Sword+Sword: AA will be the top damage dealing for Revenant, UA is free 7 might it has a block which is nice, Staff: Good burst damage with an evade, an extra heal that is a blast finisher with decent CD, a daze for interrupts and blinds+block. Legends of choice depend on group situation, most personal DPS: Shiro/Glint for impossible odds uptime increasing AA of Sword, Jade Winds for CC, Glint it’s just a must thanks to facet of Strength and Darkness alone. Most party utility: Ventari/Glint. In Ventari we have projectile destruction, tons of healing bursts and a heal that removes 3 condis. If you still need more condi cleanse in PvE (which IMO isn’t needed) you can sacrifice personal DPS and switch out Invocation for Salvation for the sake of clenase on dodge and better burst healing, Armor will be assassin’s with zerker trinkets and scholar runes and power+precision food.
WvW: Depends on the whole frontline/backline, but again my bet goes to Either Jalis+Ventari, Ventari+Glint or Jalis+Glint, weapons stay the same, Soldier instead of Assassin’s and traits will more than likely be Salvation/Retribution, Devastation and Herald, I don’t like WvW a lot because I do not enjoy zerg fights and roaming is quite slow, I might be wrong.
PvP: Depends on role, as a far pont assaulter/roamer, I think Marauder with the same weapons as PvE with Devastation, Corruption and Invocation/Herald is more viable now with the changes done to traits and skills on Swords and Staff, Legends could be a though pick.
A sort of hybrid bunker running herald could be strong too in team fights, I really don’t see Shield being useful at all IMO, but it would make mandatory to run Jalis or Ventari for condition cleanse or even Malyx (resistance on LDS proc + Facet of Nature) if running Glint, maybe with Hoelbrak runes and sigil of generosity/energy in staff you can have some sort of condi management if you run Shiro, but I see it mandatory to have another legend as option to condi cleanse paired with Glint to make Herald viable for sPvP .
My bet is that the strongest Glint Spec will Run Devastation, Corruption, Herald with Celestial Amulet, Hoelbrak runes, Mace/Axe+Staff, Battle+Intelligence on MH and Energy+Generosity OH, 2 blast finishers, facet of strength and darkness give you nice might uptime, you have fury uptime too thanks to facet of darkness and sigil proc+legendswap+resistance for condition management.
Pretty sure Sword/Axe would be optimal for DPS. Frigid Blitz hits incredibly hard and I can’t see it being anything but a DPS increase to use it.