Guild Wars 2

this video explains it all. its looking like Mallyx may be the bane of all condi builds. the guy in these NEVER uses embrace darkness but still manages to own other condi builds as well as survive against any amount of condition application, Mallyx might be kind of over powered it seems.

It’s hardly overpowered.

If you’re a condi build up against Mallyx, there are two things you can do (off the top of my head anyway):

- Use boon stripping. Engineers, necromancers and mesmers all have access to boon stripping. Just make sure you destroy their resistance.
- Make sure you use your condition spikes and bursts when they’re out of Mallyx. Eventually, they’re going to have to swap legends and when they do, you’ve got 10 seconds to rip out their intestines.

Necromancer absolutely obliterates Mallyx in two seconds.

And EtD is rather weak aside from the stat boost. It works nice if you’re copying non-damaging control conditions, like Chill, Weakness, Cripple or Blind, but it’s not worth using for the damage, since it doesn’t copy whole stacks.

If it was -6 or even -7 in it’s current form and synergized better with Demonic Defiance, it’d be good. -8 and Defiance which makes you constantly swap in and out of it just to get your Resistance is rather weak.

tl:dr

No, it is not.

Also dudes spam skills with 6-7+ stacks of confusion. They deserve to die :P

PS

dude has music taste Muse ftw

Mallyx if anything..needs a buff and rework.. Hes far from OP.

rework ? naaah, buff? a bit.

First at tall that video shows nothing related to how strong mallyx/revenant is. They are a 3 ppl guild team with high pvp and wvw experience, guard stacks and bufffood while picking out some people which are: random players / no group, most of these are people with low experience as you can see by their gameplay or ingame titles who also don’t have bufffood or guard stats. Also there are some upscaled against them.

The problem in such videos where you beat people in x vs y (with x<y) that x is much higher expirenced than y and is a team. Yes it shows what is possible, and sometimes things are possible way to easy (like beating solo 3 lvl 80 with a condi pu mesmer lol)
But usually those videos don’t show the weaknesses, all those situations where they failed. That’s why I usually prefere videos from duells where they also get beaten, maybe even against the same person/build they played against before. Or x vs x guild fights where both sides are premade and where they actually have a fair equal battle.

Yes I agree mallyx is strong in some aspects. I played duells with a similiar build vs my friends from my roaming guild which are also high expirenced. The survival is fine, but it lacked in damage in the last beta. At all I had maybe a 15% winning chance.
(Have to mention: most of them didn’t ran a condition build, so I couldn’t use their conditions as a damage boost of mine. I played against Shatter Mesmers, Engis which dealt at least some conditions, condi necro, thiefs, ele and warriors.)
At all a problem i expirenced was those skills which add more condition stacks if you have more conditions then him didn’t work out well against non condi classes. Maybe as an opener when you get cripled/vulnerability sth like that, or apply a condition to yourself as. But just an opener usually after that you have always less conditions then them.

We shouldn’t forget most people are not used to play revenant yet. So we will get a little bit better with time (me included) , but other people will also find counters for them.

Condi necros are still hardconter against it. I played a few duells against one who played signet condi. Each signet already converts 2 boons from me. And he can send all those conditions back as well (1x with dagger, 1x with staff, 1x with sigil, 1x with trait). He just have to stripe my resistance after sending them back.
I won 1 of 5 duells, where he wasn’t careful enough and i could copy all conditions on him while he had nothing to send them back/remove them. So at all condi necros are still hardconter for any condi build.

But yes I agree currently you have high chances against other condi classes if you play yourself a condition build. I guess that is similar like necro due to it’s design choices.

Also as mentioned you have a easy counter against resistance: boon striping. Use them and they are dead as well since they “lack” in condition removes due to their design. (I think they still have a fine decent amount, but as you can see other don’t think so^^)
Necro’s and Mesmers have enough choices there. Thief’s got also a few options. Engineers only got the mine/minefield since they removed the trait that thrown elexiers remove a boom. Yes every other class currently doesn’t have access to it. If you really need it there is still the Superior Sigil of Nullification, but I guess that’s more worthless if another boon always get’s striped first.

Also don’t forget they have to be in close range to copy their conditions. Also many weapon skills require melee to mid range. So try to keep them on distance.

I have to admit I had a smiliar concern before as well. But testing it and counter options removed those for me.

Killyox.3950:

rework ? naaah, buff? a bit.

Allies can nerf you..tell me its working as intended.

skowcia.8257:

Mallyx if anything..needs a buff and rework.. Hes far from OP.

I think if you fight against him like your suppose to and not skip he poses a challenge? But the eotn power creep/ reworks is real :P

Aw, that’s my video, thanks for sharing that. <3
I’ve got some more footage on My Youtube Channel if you’re interested.
I’ll definitely be giving revenant another go the next beta weekend and i’ll be making a post similar to my previous post afterwards.
Cheers!

Hey i love muse

Demented Yak.6105:

It’s hardly overpowered.

If you’re a condi build up against Mallyx, there are two things you can do (off the top of my head anyway):

- Use boon stripping. Engineers, necromancers and mesmers all have access to boon stripping. Just make sure you destroy their resistance.
- Make sure you use your condition spikes and bursts when they’re out of Mallyx. Eventually, they’re going to have to swap legends and when they do, you’ve got 10 seconds to rip out their intestines.

Easier said than done.

—First of all Engineers dont remove boons(except for throw mine that noone uses)
—2nd a revenant can beat a condi class just from camping mallyx and when the opponent goes low only then go into a different stance to burst them down
—even if you leave mallyx you can stack up a ton of resistance first that will last long after u left
—boon removal is very limited in the game and they can be dodged most of the time
—even if they manage to remove something it doesnt necessarily remove resistance but it can remove 1s of might or anything
—Last of all you can’t “rip out their intestines” unless you are an eviscerate warrior -who can’t removeboons.-

Kicker.8203:

Demented Yak.6105:

It’s hardly overpowered.

If you’re a condi build up against Mallyx, there are two things you can do (off the top of my head anyway):

- Use boon stripping. Engineers, necromancers and mesmers all have access to boon stripping. Just make sure you destroy their resistance.
- Make sure you use your condition spikes and bursts when they’re out of Mallyx. Eventually, they’re going to have to swap legends and when they do, you’ve got 10 seconds to rip out their intestines.

Easier said than done.

—First of all Engineers dont remove boons(except for throw mine that noone uses)
—2nd a revenant can beat a condi class just from camping mallyx and when the opponent goes low only then go into a different stance to burst them down
—even if you leave mallyx you can stack up a ton of resistance first that will last long after u left
—boon removal is very limited in the game and they can be dodged most of the time
—even if they manage to remove something it doesnt necessarily remove resistance but it can remove 1s of might or anything
—Last of all you can’t “rip out their intestines” unless you are an eviscerate warrior -who can’t removeboons.-

well Mesmers actually can boon strip 4 times in a row, unless they’re spamming keys predictively I don’t think its going to get much through there tbh. and Necromancers, Don’t they have like boon Strip as a Trait on one of their DS attacks? which is very spammable?…

Engineers can Just Moa and get him focus’d and its Meta build isn’t even Slightly condi based so tbh isn’t going to suffer from how good Mallyx is at countering Condi builds…

in a world where Elementalists and Guardians can achieve 60k Damage from burns and there are Necromancers out there who even survived the Damage quantities til then, I don’t think the fact someones capable of setting themselves up to fight condi builds is a problem, its not like its good against anything else as its condi damage is transfers and not initial Conditional Damage meaning if ur fighting someone with 0 condi ur worthless.

I don’t think revs are OP by a mile and I think the fact NOBODIES playing it shows that factor, people are deeming it too weak in SPVP atleast.

funny video though