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King of selfmight.
Warrior is still King by far during combat and especially for groups. Also there were some Necro builds that could selfstack 25 might even easier with the Reaper traits.
You could cap might by yourself in first preview, too. I’ve done it.
The interesting thing about Facet is that it also applies to allies and isn’t just Mightstacking, but also Resistance, Stability or Protection.
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I called it king of self…for a reason. It is also from pvp perspective. That should allow us to run tankier builds while still dishing out amazing damage (looking at crusader and soldier with retri/invo/herald lines with sigil of accuracy to stay at 51% crit chance.)
Overall theres a lot of build potential and i think herald is too good to the point where it will overshadow all future elite specs.
While Herald is nice addition, I don’t think that it will be a must-pick. I can certainly see many builds that don’t need that Elite Specialization and I’m looking foward to more Elite Specs (Ritualist!) in the future.
And I always speak from PvP perspective.
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Im personally not a fan of invocation, salvation line pretty much sux for anything outside of cleric builds, devastation offers some damage..but most important life siphon. Not a build im gonna play as i dont like going above 2650 armor+rely on stripable boons, but something like that is possible for wvw/spvp
In herald line; harderning, shared, bulwark.
Thats basically gonna crush any power build.
still inferior to ele aoe might
Also with str runes and sigil of str it’s not hard to do the same on other classes
I was stacking 25 might on the reaper in the BWE without even being aware of it, i wasn’t sure what i was doing, I’d just occasionally look down and see that i had 25 stacks.
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Lol you young’uns. Reaper is the king of self might and vuln stacking hands down, not even a discussion here.
I hate theorycrafting
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I was stacking 25 might on the reaper in the BWE without even being aware of it, i wasn’t sure what i was doing, I’d just occasionally look down and see that i had 25 stacks.
Beat me to it. That’s from hitting chilled enemies iirc. Chronomancer can also stack a ton of might, but I don’t see it necessarily being used by many (more work than with Reaper and requires constant shattering, which most don’t want to do).
Basically you have 3 options for might stacking in groups, the best will always be Elementalists because fire fields from them provide a lot of comboing and they also have access to water for condi cleanse and healing bursts: Fire+Blast=Might if persisting flames is traited (most likely) fury also, Leap= Fire aura also they do not sacrifice much personal DPS for that, they’re the second top DPS class just behind Engineer (both direct and condition damage currently is on Engi, but it’s not as picked because it has much less consistent party buffing than ele and blinds+stealth on thief are way better). Forceful Greatsword+Phalanx Strength+Strength Runes on Warrior are almost as effective as Elementalists but they can’t keep the Fury uptime Eles can HOWEVER they run Banner of Strength AND Precision, which is mostly the reason they’re still in the meta as their DPS isn’t actually that over the top (unlike most people think).
Revenant IMO will be around Warrior utility party wise, DPS wise? it’s yet to be seen but if Revenant will have damage to be on par with meta builds.
Lets take meta warrior (again) builds as a comparison point usually run: Forceful Greatsword (20% extra damage with GS), Berserker’s Power (Burst skills give a buff that grants 10/15/20% Damage), Bloodlust (5% extra damage on bleeding foes which has literally 100% uptime), Furious (adds some condition damage which is extra deeps even if just a bit) and Empowered (1% extra damage for each boon, in party situations it’s easily attaineable to keep 5+ boons on you).
Revenant just has Vicious Strikes (most reliable, 5 stacks=10% extra damage, I’d like that to go up to 20%, so 4% per stack I just think it’s not that big of a deal for damage increase), Swift Termination (sort of reliable if enemies melt fast 20% damage if enemy is below 50% health), Ferocious Aggresion (viable as in groups you’re more than likely to have permafury, specially if you run traited for that, 7% damage while under the effects of fury)and Elder’s Force (2% damage per boon, easily 5% just by yourself, kind of compensates for the 10% from vicious strikes), the thing is I’ve yet to see the potential damage with the changes to attack skills, not to mention you’re more than likely capping in 200-210% crit damage and around 70-80% crit chance out of your gear and traits alone.
The DPS comparison was made just for the sake of reminding that a viable build needs to bring the most bang for buck party utility while being able to sustain your maximum DPS and that the DPS numbers you attain do not have to be in the lowest tier out of all the professions. Support alone isn’t enough to make a profession worth taking at high tier content because the game mechanics even out survivability vs DPS. Necro can easily keep 25 might on itself, but it didn’t prove much useful in party situations until changes to blood traits.
Also reminding that people started taking zerker to fractals because if they took PVT they had more survival, but in the end taking longer to kill bosses ended up with bosses dying not fast enough and killing them even with defense options, it’s better to use blind, weakness, protection, vigor, blocks, and passive adds to thoughness and keep the DPS high enough than actually trying to mitigate damage through stats alone.
I was stacking 25 might on the reaper in the BWE without even being aware of it, i wasn’t sure what i was doing, I’d just occasionally look down and see that i had 25 stacks.
Beat me to it. That’s from hitting chilled enemies iirc. Chronomancer can also stack a ton of might, but I don’t see it necessarily being used by many (more work than with Reaper and requires constant shattering, which most don’t want to do).
Nope. Just autoing in Reaper’s Shroud. I never ran Chilling Victory in the BWE and was constantly solo-capping Might and vulnerability without even trying (Might was purely through Minor traits). And maintaining it. Pretty sure no other profession can solo-maintain capped Might (even if just on self) and Vuln (though in bursts, it’s possible).
Chilling Vicotry is a good trait, but this past weekend, Reaper just did not have the chill uptime to make it worthwhile.
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I was stacking 25 might on the reaper in the BWE without even being aware of it, i wasn’t sure what i was doing, I’d just occasionally look down and see that i had 25 stacks.
Beat me to it. That’s from hitting chilled enemies iirc. Chronomancer can also stack a ton of might, but I don’t see it necessarily being used by many (more work than with Reaper and requires constant shattering, which most don’t want to do).
Nope. Just autoing in Reaper’s Shroud. I never ran Chilling Victory in the BWE and was constantly solo-capping Might and vulnerability without even trying (Might was purely through Minor traits). And maintaining it. Pretty sure no other profession can solo-maintain capped Might (even if just on self) and Vuln (though in bursts, it’s possible).
Chilling Vicotry is a good trait, but this past weekend, Reaper just did not have the chill uptime to make it worthwhile.
In fact even base necro can solo maintain 25 might stacks with the spite minors. No need for reaper. Reaper stacks it up just much faster.