Guild Wars 2

dank.3680:

Maris.3164:

Burtnik.5218:

Tbh thief should murder any viper rev. Ez prey. Right as they swap to Mallyx, steal stab and unload burst. But cause everyone and their mom thinks thief is in bad spot (it inst) viper revs can run and counter other braindead condi classes and dont worry about being bursted 100-0

So that’s why so many thieves are running P/P now. Not that I’ve seen any of these thieves win 1v1 yet. I think it’s just the stun there that can kill the rev tbh. If timed right when the rev is low on health you should have a free kill.

I think he just meant “do your burst”, anyways I agree after initial learning curve every rev 1v1 with my daredevil has been as easy as killing old necros. I find that projectile you get (especially with double steal) is key to easily beating the rev. It doesn’t hurt that I played Rev hard for a couple weeks and know when to not attack (which as a thief you have that choice when to pressure and when to be wherever you want)

Can you teach me how to play daredevil i tried it and i have a pretty good time but few mistake will seriously down you instantly. But like the mobility and ninja like movement.

jayson.6512:

dank.3680:

Maris.3164:

Burtnik.5218:

Tbh thief should murder any viper rev. Ez prey. Right as they swap to Mallyx, steal stab and unload burst. But cause everyone and their mom thinks thief is in bad spot (it inst) viper revs can run and counter other braindead condi classes and dont worry about being bursted 100-0

So that’s why so many thieves are running P/P now. Not that I’ve seen any of these thieves win 1v1 yet. I think it’s just the stun there that can kill the rev tbh. If timed right when the rev is low on health you should have a free kill.

I think he just meant “do your burst”, anyways I agree after initial learning curve every rev 1v1 with my daredevil has been as easy as killing old necros. I find that projectile you get (especially with double steal) is key to easily beating the rev. It doesn’t hurt that I played Rev hard for a couple weeks and know when to not attack (which as a thief you have that choice when to pressure and when to be wherever you want)

Can you teach me how to play daredevil i tried it and i have a pretty good time but few mistake will seriously down you instantly. But like the mobility and ninja like movement.

Only duel for about 2 weeks without using stealth. Seriously, only duels, dont play any matches or any other class and forget what stealth is. This is what you gotta do If you want to play thief like a jedi (i and another of the few truly great thieves got called this while we were fighting, it was pretty funny).

It will be hard, you might think its impossible and that the class is bad but if you get the offensive evasive style pat down you will be pretty amazed at the things you can do on the class. Now i dont bother running shadow refuge or bow and its awesome.

Stealth dependance is the reason why so many thieves complain when anything to do with stealth is changed, look at the steal needing a target thing. The only reason people were complaining is because they were too slow and didnt have the composure to escape a gank without just pushing steal for hidden thief trait.

mallyx is a demon*

jayson.6512:

Mallyx are far from being a god.. you only think mallyx is strong because warrior players are few in pvp since HOT hit them pretty bad but if only anet didnt mess up warrior revenant mallyx is a joke. And dd ele can still beat them im not sure where you get the idea of mallyx being god DH can send them to oblivion.

If you getting rolled by dh its time to git gut.

I’d put it this way – Mallyx is not as good as the number of them on ESL tournament suggests.

Now of course, there’s many ways you could argument that I’m wrong about it. I may be wrong and I’m definitely not the most experienced Rev around. I have played matches on it tho and my feelings about it were mixed.

Also, looking at ESL games I couldn’t see as much value in Mallyx Revs that would excuse taking two of them per team…

Again, I may be wrong, but please enlighten me if I am, because I’m actually curious and opened to new knowledge

Mallyx works well due to high uptime resistance (condi meta), boonstrip spam which puts load of confu and most important double stab on dodge. Take that off and Mallyx will become potato to cc 100-0 the moment you swap to it. Not to mention that useless elite and the poor last minute desing.

I still laugh at these peeps who been taking shield trait over double stab. People finally realized how good it is.

Burtnik.5218:

Mallyx works well due to high uptime resistance (condi meta), boonstrip spam which puts load of confu and most important double stab on dodge. Take that off and Mallyx will become potato to cc 100-0 the moment you swap to it. Not to mention that useless elite and the poor last minute desing.

I still laugh at these peeps who been taking shield trait over double stab. People finally realized how good it is.

Yeah, I had some that wanted me to run that shield thinking it heals great when it pops instead of the double stab. I rather double stab as I dodge and get stability and its doubled and that way I can run through more red circles than some herald/rev without it.

Speaking of Mallyx, I like how its tanky in that regard with resistance kept up for as long as I’m using and/or spamming Mallyx skills, it even nullifies the effects of torment while with resistance up. However, when I need condi cleansing, its Janis or rely on Glint’s temp heal to heal the damage from infused light, or go to Mallyx and just resist.

I would like Mallyx to have a way to send conditions to others, or have it so that it could consume the conditions for health like Necros can with their self heal. However, resistance when traited for it can keep that condi cleanse from needing to be used.

Burtnik.5218:

I still laugh at these peeps who been taking shield trait over double stab. People finally realized how good it is.

HAHA yeah i love my double stability! No contest for me. Way more useful in pvp.

Hello! Ive been eyeing this Mallyx build mentioned earlier in the tread:
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vlEQRApX5un3geNSuQvJRboHlsP0kS4I6SJ4EtrkFUlR9iPGJNgCWwO92jH-ThyCABAcCBOZ/hIOIAqqE84nEAKaMMw8nRK/yTfwNq/EA4AY36W3AQKgFVWB-e

And finding it to look rather intriguing, as I find Shiro to be a bore to play and IO having a hideous sound bothering my ears. – But one thing have left me wondering. With crit not doing much for conditions at all, why use Maniacal Persistence over Diabolic Inferno? Surely youd want even more sources of burning, especially when using balthazar runes? Doubly so with Carrion armor with no ferocity, nor precision.

No more god, lol.

…and nerfed!

Not sure if that was the place to strike, but needed one. Disabling Mallyx is a hotfix for season, we will see what will happen with it after balance patch.

Rym.1469:

Not sure if that was the place to strike, but needed one. Disabling Mallyx is a hotfix for season, we will see what will happen with it after balance patch.

Nothing like with Jalis. 3 betas where Jalis was trash..guess what? Hes trash still.

Howered im all up for toning everything in pvp now cus its just full cheese. Kinda weird they dindt touched other classes. i crit ele with sword for 900 with berk amulet and 15 might stacks..

Mallyx is strong because PvP is small scale battle field
If you fight open battlefield Mallyx build going to get kitted pretty bad
If you switch to shiro you lose condi power and vulnerable to all kind of cancers
If you missed on jade wind and #2 mace combo then you pretty much doom anyway

So its not god
If anet figure out taunt 4 sec + protection in 45 sec cd and 2 stability on dodge
And sure they will somehow nerf it and your god will be forever gone

Relevant:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Upcoming-Balance-Changes-Week-of-December-14-2015

Demonic Defiance: This trait now has a 5 second internal cooldown.

I don’t think it’s killed the god that was Mallyx, but it might have made Him mortal. Now that you can no longer reliably outlast conditions from the constant Resistance you got with DD, you’re going to have to make the choice of Jalis or leaving a gaping hole that any Mesmer, Necro, Thief(hey, they still do exist!) or Rev that coupled Mallyx with Jalis can now even more easily exploit with boon stripping. Maybe Ventari, but that’ll strip you of nearly all mobility and, unless you drop a trait line for Invocation, any possible stun break as well.

Mallyx/Shiro might still work with some sigils that help with condtion cleansing, but Mallyx/Glint is pretty much DOA for PvP, nothing there to cleanse conditions or help disengage when the resistance becomes scarce.

Foefaller.1082:

Relevant:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Upcoming-Balance-Changes-Week-of-December-14-2015

Demonic Defiance: This trait now has a 5 second internal cooldown.

I don’t think it’s killed the god that was Mallyx, but it might have made Him mortal. Now that you can no longer reliably outlast conditions from the constant Resistance you got with DD, you’re going to have to make the choice of Jalis or leaving a gaping hole that any Mesmer, Necro, Thief(hey, they still do exist!) or Rev that coupled Mallyx with Jalis can now even more easily exploit with boon stripping. Maybe Ventari, but that’ll strip you of nearly all mobility and, unless you drop a trait line for Invocation, any possible stun break as well.

Mallyx/Shiro might still work with some sigils that help with condtion cleansing, but Mallyx/Glint is pretty much DOA for PvP, nothing there to cleanse conditions or help disengage when the resistance becomes scarce.

People keep forgetting that Revenant is an Auto Attack Class, and will now have to make more use of Pain Absorption. One Pain Absorption with Facet of Nature lasts long enough to completely negate all the Conditions on you.

SoulstitchMMO.1396:

Foefaller.1082:

Relevant:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Upcoming-Balance-Changes-Week-of-December-14-2015

Demonic Defiance: This trait now has a 5 second internal cooldown.

I don’t think it’s killed the god that was Mallyx, but it might have made Him mortal. Now that you can no longer reliably outlast conditions from the constant Resistance you got with DD, you’re going to have to make the choice of Jalis or leaving a gaping hole that any Mesmer, Necro, Thief(hey, they still do exist!) or Rev that coupled Mallyx with Jalis can now even more easily exploit with boon stripping. Maybe Ventari, but that’ll strip you of nearly all mobility and, unless you drop a trait line for Invocation, any possible stun break as well.

Mallyx/Shiro might still work with some sigils that help with condtion cleansing, but Mallyx/Glint is pretty much DOA for PvP, nothing there to cleanse conditions or help disengage when the resistance becomes scarce.

People keep forgetting that Revenant is an Auto Attack Class, and will now have to make more use of Pain Absorption. One Pain Absorption with Facet of Nature lasts long enough to completely negate all the Conditions on you.

hes right.
1 pain absorption gives u like 7 sek resistance , its long enough to deal with conditions .
u can kill evry condition class with this build but its not so brainless than before ^^.(just spam the elite)

Legiion.7385:

SoulstitchMMO.1396:

Foefaller.1082:

Relevant:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Upcoming-Balance-Changes-Week-of-December-14-2015

Demonic Defiance: This trait now has a 5 second internal cooldown.

I don’t think it’s killed the god that was Mallyx, but it might have made Him mortal. Now that you can no longer reliably outlast conditions from the constant Resistance you got with DD, you’re going to have to make the choice of Jalis or leaving a gaping hole that any Mesmer, Necro, Thief(hey, they still do exist!) or Rev that coupled Mallyx with Jalis can now even more easily exploit with boon stripping. Maybe Ventari, but that’ll strip you of nearly all mobility and, unless you drop a trait line for Invocation, any possible stun break as well.

Mallyx/Shiro might still work with some sigils that help with condtion cleansing, but Mallyx/Glint is pretty much DOA for PvP, nothing there to cleanse conditions or help disengage when the resistance becomes scarce.

People keep forgetting that Revenant is an Auto Attack Class, and will now have to make more use of Pain Absorption. One Pain Absorption with Facet of Nature lasts long enough to completely negate all the Conditions on you.

hes right.
1 pain absorption gives u like 7 sek resistance , its long enough to deal with conditions .
u can kill evry condition class with this build but its not so brainless than before ^^.(just spam the elite)

It just got nerfed into the ground relax

now it’s gonna be hell of a nightmare fighting another mallyx lol
basically who hit the corrupt on resistance in that 10 secs, who wins.

I played Mallyx all threw beta always thought it was good even in BW3 when ppl were more focused on Shiro

What is making condi rev good in esl is not malyx but
-on demand dissengage(shiro)
-gap closer on demand(shiro)
-5 sec aoe stun(shiro)
-on demand quickness(shiro)
- heal on res if attacked(herald)
-stability on dodge(retribution)
- dmg reduction(retribution) i consider retribution to be dwarf trait line…
-boons (herald)
and lastly resitance (but that works only if 2x rev) and boon strip from malyx

What is making malyx strong are traits from other legends mostly and shield that comes from herald.
Try runing malyx with out only herald line and you will cut ussefullnes to half….