Guild Wars 2

Hello folks,

I’ve recently been considering using Superior runes of nature’s bounty and I’ve got a question concerning its work with Mallyx’s Empowering Misery : in which order are effects applied ?

Indeed, Empowering Misery adds a bonus healing for conditions, but the rune will remove one of them, so is it removed before the bonus healing ? Or do you first get the bonus healing, and then one condi removed ?

The wiki gives no answer for that, so I thought I’d ask here…

Addition : and while we’re at it, a trickier one : if you also use Maniacal persistance alongside Demonic Defiance how does all of this work ?

It should still have the increased healing power as Rune’s don’t prokittenil casting has finished. Same goes for if you get a condi put on you while it’s casting.

The Maniac Persistence and Demonic Defiance combo works, assuming they are both off cooldown… But DD procs at the end of your cast/animation not the start of it. Like, if you use Unyielding Anguish, the resistance doesn’t pop until after you’ve landed and the field fully appears… So make sure you end up in range of your targets for MP, or it’ll be wasted.

narcx.3570:

No… When things say they are triggered by a Heal Skill, it means your #6-slot-heal-ability, not any ability that heals you.

Maniac Persistence and Demonic Defiance due combo though, assuming they are both off cooldown.

You probably misunderstood me. Empowering Misery is Mallyx’s 6-skill. Regular healing skill.

Now, if everything is off cooldown, here’re the events that are bound to happen :

• Get resistance
• Self apply torment
• Recieve bonus healing because you have torment on you
• Remove torment because of rune.

Now, in which order does all of this work ?

ThomasC.1056:

narcx.3570:

No… When things say they are triggered by a Heal Skill, it means your #6-slot-heal-ability, not any ability that heals you.

Maniac Persistence and Demonic Defiance due combo though, assuming they are both off cooldown.

You probably misunderstood me. Empowering Misery is Mallyx’s 6-skill. Regular healing skill.

Now, if everything is off cooldown, here’re the events that are bound to happen :

• Get resistance
• Self apply torment
• Recieve bonus healing because you have torment on you
• Remove torment because of rune.

Now, in which order does all of this work ?

Yeah, my bad, edited.

Thanks for your detailed answer !