Guild Wars 2

What is the common variable between all revenant builds? Assassin’s stance.

There is no doubt in my mind that assassin’s simply offers too much. On demand quickness, on demand port, on demand evade and a seriously spammable elite.

I believe if we shave shiro stance, revenant will be in a much better spot.
For instance, if we reduce the energy regeneration of the evade from 50 to 25 would be a good start. Moreover, increase Impossible odds energy cost.

This post is really just a rant. Anet EVERYONE knows rev is op. Action required please.

“Revenant will be in a much better spot” aka nerfed into ground so you can have freebags? Thats briliant idea, +1

While were at it why you dindt mentioned the crappy healing skill? That one is fine obviously..

Nerfing and then saying “revenant will be in a much better spot” doesn’t fit together in one sentence. Sorry, but gutting Shiro to death would ruin the revenant or make them far from playable in PvP. The mobility coming from Shiro has already been nerfed by adding a CD to Phase Traversal.
It would be far better to buff or even rework Mallyx and all the other legends except Glint and Shiro.

Yeah Shiro’s not really OP. I’m saying this as someone who both uses and fights against Revenants on other classes regularly. The reason everybody uses Shiro is not because it is OP but because the other legends aside from Glint are just a little subpar. Mallyx in particular needs a stunbreak imo. I absolutely hate that I can’t run Shiro/Mallyx without losing a ton of stuff from Glint.

The only thing I find OP with Revenant right now is Shield 5 combined with Shield Trait. It gives you ridiculous amounts of sustain and lets you tank a point very well even on a squishy build.

Mallyx are fine? What?…

Mallyx it’s far to be fine. Go play one in Raids, oh you can’t noone want it.

Jezz, stop with the pvp mentality.

Shiro itself is not overpowered. However, it offers insane utility in conquest that makes it simply outstanding in PvP. Think about it. It gives insane mobility that rivals even thief. It has INSANE survivability with Glint/Shiro due to the combination of blocks and dodges. It is true that they lose a lot of sustain if they switch to Malyx Revenant but that trade off is insane amount of boon rip and condi damage.

Nerfing Shiro would hurt revenant in some aspects while keeping the core of the build you are trying to run viable. For instance, if you run Malyx/Shiro you will still have insane amount of damage but it will identify your role similar to reapers’. If you run Glint/Shiro you will still be really strong in survivability as you maintain the blocks.

Nerfing shiro would not totally remove Revenant from the meta, rather it will simply hurt its mobility in teamfights, res/cleave power, etc.

I dont even know why im even arguing here…man rev needs a nerf..asap.

Patchi.9061:

Shiro itself is not overpowered. However, it offers insane utility in conquest that makes it simply outstanding in PvP. Think about it. It gives insane mobility that rivals even thief. It has INSANE survivability with Glint/Shiro due to the combination of blocks and dodges. It is true that they lose a lot of sustain if they switch to Malyx Revenant but that trade off is insane amount of boon rip and condi damage.

Nerfing Shiro would hurt revenant in some aspects while keeping the core of the build you are trying to run viable. For instance, if you run Malyx/Shiro you will still have insane amount of damage but it will identify your role similar to reapers’. If you run Glint/Shiro you will still be really strong in survivability as you maintain the blocks.

Nerfing shiro would not totally remove Revenant from the meta, rather it will simply hurt its mobility in teamfights, res/cleave power, etc.

I dont even know why im even arguing here…man rev needs a nerf..asap.

I don’t think you know what you’re talking about, to be honest. You’re saying that the other legends would be more viable if you nerf the only viable one? That makes no sense.

Wait what, Shiro is OP now?

Patchi.9061:

What is the common variable between all revenant builds? Assassin’s stance.

Incorrect, I run Jalis/Herald.

What’s the difference between all Revenants running Shiro and all Elementalists/ Tempests running Fire Magic, or all Warriors/Berserkers running with Quick Hands etc etc?

With all due respect OP, you don’t seem to understand the class well enough to have a meaningful conversation about it.

Patchi.9061:

What is the common variable between all revenant builds? Assassin’s stance.

Actually it’s herald.

Rain.9213:

Patchi.9061:

Shiro itself is not overpowered. However, it offers insane utility in conquest that makes it simply outstanding in PvP. Think about it. It gives insane mobility that rivals even thief. It has INSANE survivability with Glint/Shiro due to the combination of blocks and dodges. It is true that they lose a lot of sustain if they switch to Malyx Revenant but that trade off is insane amount of boon rip and condi damage.

Nerfing Shiro would hurt revenant in some aspects while keeping the core of the build you are trying to run viable. For instance, if you run Malyx/Shiro you will still have insane amount of damage but it will identify your role similar to reapers’. If you run Glint/Shiro you will still be really strong in survivability as you maintain the blocks.

Nerfing shiro would not totally remove Revenant from the meta, rather it will simply hurt its mobility in teamfights, res/cleave power, etc.

I dont even know why im even arguing here…man rev needs a nerf..asap.

I don’t think you know what you’re talking about, to be honest. You’re saying that the other legends would be more viable if you nerf the only viable one? That makes no sense.

Unfortunately that’s typically how Anet works. Nerfing viable builds promotes build diversity, didn’t you know?

shiro is popular because it has the only quality stun-break, and the other legends are a little sub-par.

other legends ought to have a reliable stun-break or stun-break on legend swap ought to be baseline.

fellyn.5083:

Rain.9213:

Patchi.9061:

Shiro itself is not overpowered. However, it offers insane utility in conquest that makes it simply outstanding in PvP. Think about it. It gives insane mobility that rivals even thief. It has INSANE survivability with Glint/Shiro due to the combination of blocks and dodges. It is true that they lose a lot of sustain if they switch to Malyx Revenant but that trade off is insane amount of boon rip and condi damage.

Nerfing Shiro would hurt revenant in some aspects while keeping the core of the build you are trying to run viable. For instance, if you run Malyx/Shiro you will still have insane amount of damage but it will identify your role similar to reapers’. If you run Glint/Shiro you will still be really strong in survivability as you maintain the blocks.

Nerfing shiro would not totally remove Revenant from the meta, rather it will simply hurt its mobility in teamfights, res/cleave power, etc.

I dont even know why im even arguing here…man rev needs a nerf..asap.

I don’t think you know what you’re talking about, to be honest. You’re saying that the other legends would be more viable if you nerf the only viable one? That makes no sense.

Unfortunately that’s typically how Anet works. Nerfing viable builds promotes build diversity, didn’t you know?

Exactly…………. Jallis and Ventari wont stop being trash by doing that, instead they have to buff it to be on par.

I actually aggree with op. Shiro legend is the dps legend. Dps should brinore risk, like malyx. I am also very negative aboit the damage of enchanted daggers. There is waay too much damage on here.

I would say tone down shiro a bit and buff ventari and jalis