Guild Wars 2

My burning/Poison Tank Rev…. Why do people hate condition rev so much? I do really well in WvWvW // PvP // and all the PvE content I have encountered so far, my group is getting ready to start raiding this weekend, but a few have concerns about condi-rev…

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlEQRApX5un3geNSuQvJRboHlsP0kS4I6SJ4EtrkFUlR9iPGJNgCWwO92jH-ThyCABAcCBOZ/hIOIAqqE84nEAKaMMw8nRK/yTfwNq/EA4AY36W3AQKgFVWB-e

Above is the link to my condi-Rev. I keep seeing over and over that condi-rev sucks, and people are even insta kicking them from raid groups. But I don’t understand why that is. A few guild friends helped me do a VERY rough DPS/survivability check on my rev vs a power rev vs a Condi warrior. We were in silverwaste and battled Vet mob and his 3 friends summoned by the hero point in the middle of the map. The Warrior (fastest of the 3 tested… and yes we did multiple runs) was able to clear the group in ~21 secs with ~65% of HP(lowest of the 3 tested) remaining. The Power Rev would clear ~24 secs with ~70% HP remaining, my Condi-Rev would clear in ~26 secs (slowest of the 3 tested) with ~95% HP (highest of the 3 tested) remaining. So yes, our overall damage is a bit lower, but the survive-ability significantly higher.

So now for those of you who have made it this far, and checked out my build, you will know that I use a shield in off hand. That is because 99% of my DPS comes from mace 1,2,3. Shield helps give group protection and self block. So my question is, the slightly lower damage that we observed really worth all the talk that about how bad Condi-Rev’s are??? I bring 20+ stacks of might, I give group protection, regeneration, might, fury, swiftness… 25K HP, and tons of armor…

What are you on about? Apparently all the ESL teams are using condition rev and everyone else has just started with them too. Metabattle (Not that this is the supreme authority) updated either today or yesterday, promoting condition rev to meta and relegating power rev to “Great”. This is for PvP.

For raids, nobody knows.

For dungeons, nobody cares.

For WvW, you just need a hammer.

And why are you testing dps and survivability against a hero point in the silverwastes? That proves almost nothing about anything.

My personal experience is that power rev is better but both power and condition rev are pretty good.

@ Demented.

I did not see the ESL/Meta battle update, just going off what we kept hearing in “all” chat and our experiences when we tried to pug some raids.

we tested in the siverwastes because its a lvl 80 zone, with a low population at the moment where we would not be interrupted why trying to kill the same set of mobs over and over.

Condi rev can’t compete with other specs at damage, which is what condi is for, pure death.

However in pvp I can def see condi rev working because you don’t need high numbers, just constant ticks which rev will def get

@ Azure,
So basically my mindset is a bit off in thinking we (the group) want survive-ability and DPS in the same build but rather Glass Cannons and Tanks separate?

NeoJerod.8104:

@ Azure,
So basically my mindset is a bit off in thinking we (the group) want survive-ability and DPS in the same build but rather Glass Cannons and Tanks separate?

depends on the content. events and such? sure np

fractals and raids? I dont think so. I mean, YOUR group might like it and thats PERFECTLY fine, but for min maxers which this game is infested with, and I surely am I sadly, no.

Makes sense, thanks for the input Azure.