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Posted by: Morfedel.4165

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I mean really, he seems a bit too powerful when compared to the other three legends. Or perhaps you could say the other three seem underpowered compared to him.

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Posted by: MercenaryNote.8506

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Pretty much what every other profession does. You’ll only really use the other legends outside of PvE as DPS is invaluable in that game mode. However, as it’s constantly stated, this should change with the release of Heart of Thorns. We could see Ventari/Jalis/Mallyx being the most useful legends when it comes out, we don’t know yet.

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Posted by: Knighthonor.4061

Knighthonor.4061

I wont be using his legend in my planned build. Swords on the other hand….

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Posted by: Shinzan.2908

Shinzan.2908

The other legends got a buff too…. but yea, I do believe everyone will run Shiro just as everyone runs zerker gear or certain trait lines. There’s always a meta build that’s just the best, and since GW2 meta is about DPS it makes sense to slot the dps legend.

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

Shiro skills? Probably.
Shiro traits? 100% sure.
Swords? Same.

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Posted by: Argon.1563

Argon.1563

In all honesty, Shiro’s skills don’t look very impressive besides Impossible Odds, so I think there could be room for other legends in viable builds, I think the swords or at least mainhand sword will be a staple for direct damage builds.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

I have many build planned without Shiro Legend.

I might mix some swords or get Devastation traitline, but it’s really possible.

Shiro himself as a Legend isn’t that super amazing, tbh.

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Posted by: FLiP.7680

FLiP.7680

I actually think that Jalis will be part of every dungeon path, the Stability + Weakness in a single skill that can be kept permanently is very strong.

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Posted by: Lewis Burnell.2493

Lewis Burnell.2493

Shrio and Mallyx with Swords/Staff :-)

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Posted by: Sylent.3165

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I’ll be using sword shield glint I think. Or sword axe in dwarf stance.

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Posted by: Duke Blackrose.4981

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I think that, if Jalis’s Forced Engagement and Rite of the Great Dwarf were buffed to viability, Jalis would actually be the stronger of the two legends by far. He’s incredibly versatile, and has powerful damage output of his own.

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Posted by: Tora.7214

Tora.7214

probably will be using hammer-s/s to have melee and range, i enjoy the gameplay on my power ranger (GS/LB) of being able to change from melee to range and feeling as powerfull with either wep.

might have to see glint signets and see how good are they, but ill most probably wont be using shield (cause they hide my white feathered wings backpack xD )

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Posted by: Ragion.2831

Ragion.2831

I mean really, he seems a bit too powerful when compared to the other three legends. Or perhaps you could say the other three seem underpowered compared to him.

I dont think Legends should be compared like that. Each legend is only as powerful as the second one you are using. With all of Shiro’s damage and mobility if you arent handling the conditions or running defensive stuff like protection and stability and evades, you will get slaughtered.

It all depends on what your primary is, if you are healer before DPS, then ventari/Shiro and then run more healing traits than damage traits, if full tank, then Jalis/Ventari, if only direct damage, Shiro/Jalis with damage traits, tanky direct damage, same thing but damage reduction traits. The combos, go on and on.

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Posted by: Dadnir.5038

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Shiro is basically hit and run with some celerity and an aoe stun.
Ventari is plagued with a tablet that have the worst mechanism possible in this game.
Mallyx is an aoe condition junky and a bit of boon hate.
Jalis is a hammer nerd with some stability.

If you look at it, none of them are especially strong set. On the other hand, weapon set are in another league. Most likely, we will have to see what good the change that have been done on them will do on the balance of the whole class.
Ultimately, no weapon set are linked to any legend. They only share the love of the same traitline.

No core profession should be balanced around an optional elite specialization.

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Posted by: JoshuaRAWR.4653

JoshuaRAWR.4653

Numbers aren’t final.

Shiro’s without a doubt going to be the focus for sustained DPS, but we can’t rule the others out just yet, because again, numbers aren’t final.

Ventari has the potential to be insanely useful with it’s strong support, and it’s been rumored going by quotes from Colin, that HoT’s “challenging content” will require players to change how they play in order to be succesful, meaning the ‘zerk meta’ could be out for these.

Jalis pretty much brings perma stability, while this isn’t all too useful at the moment, we could see situations where it’ll be strong in HoT

Malyx, not sure on this one to be honest.

Finally, Glint, we’ll just need to wait and see what this spec brings.

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Posted by: Pompeia.5483

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I enjoyed the DoT’s (torture and poison) from Malyx so I will likely run that with either Shiro for more dps or Ventari for emergency heals. Then it would be mace/axe and s/s since I was not overly impressed with hammer or staff. Just means no Megadestroyer for me I already plan to have givers weapons and sinister armor/jewelry, should be fun.

Honestly, I have never really gone with the “use this or gtfo” builds that folks call up for dungeons and PvE (which I do 95% of the time). My DS Necro uses Clerics set and would use Zealots if I could get the ascended recipes. I out-survive and tank everyone and can revive them at will if needed. Some times that turtle really does win the race

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

Malyx, not sure on this one to be honest.

Mallyx has some flaws with condition copy imo. The ones that stack in duration completely break you.

However its upkeep does actually more damage then Shiro’s.

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Posted by: Shrubsy.9720

Shrubsy.9720

In PVP it would be extremely hard to compete without using sword/shiro. The problem is, the sword skills/shiro legend have more defensive play than all of the other setups combined.

Active mobility/teleports are going to outshine the heals/stability/resistance that the other legends offer as far as self survivability is concerned. In addition, all those things are slow and clunky as they are now.

Now, you can argue that the other legends offer group support to make up for that. But, for example, going full support with Jalix/Ventari just wouldn’t work at the moment because you’d honestly have less survivability than a zerker shiro revenant. I’m sorry, but slowly moving your healing tablet to yourself while you get 100-0 mesmer bursted just isn’t going to cut it.

Another example:
Jade Wind: Take 0 new condis or direct damage for 3 seconds while enemies are stunned (or force enemy stun breaks)

Jalix Elite: Most likely die while trying to channel a 50% damage mitigation (not including condis) for half a century

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

Meh, just because tank revenant sucks. A solution would be making Ventari usable in pvp, or fix mallyx. Jalis numbers also need some tweaks or maybe some active defense

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