Guild Wars 2

For all of those who intend to do a balance thread involving Ventari consider these points

• 1. Compare optimal outgoing healing output with Tempests/druids

If it’s not higher than a tempest it’s not enough. Since Ventari is a sustained healer, constrained by energy and naturally harder use. The real values will be far lower than the optimal values.

• 2. Do not increase sustain significantly

Revenants have access to many sources of active defense and passive defenses against power damage. Because of that self-healing has to be on the lower side to not create a unkillable bunker.
Currently Ventaris self-healing can be increased due to the strong presence of condi damage and high burst power. Acceptable values would be from around what was lost with shield 5 nerf to 15%.
To increase Healing values without increasing self sustain increase outgoing healing modifiers.

• 3. Do not suggest a following tablet

This removes flavor from ventari (making him a inferior tempest clone). Doing so would increase self sustain significantly by making the tablet far more reliable for self healing and it will either break rule number 2 or force Ventari into a lower outgoing healing value.

Also balance him around the clerics amulet since this is the closest to be viable.

I think your average, non-hardcore player is more worried about usability issues than number tweaks. The tablet requires too much micromanaging, which may be fine with similar mechanics in games like League of legends, where combat is generally simpler, than it is in GW2, where you already have a lot of things to micromanage in the first place.

Most of the suggestions usually revolve around QoL changes that minimize button presses, like auto-summoning (scrap the mechanics for breaking a tablet, have the elite skill put all others on cooldown, and call it a day), auto-follow (if not always ON, then merely have it come closer when you leave its range, instead of having it break) or slighly bigger spells radius for a higher 6 cooldown (so that you don’t need to spam it so often merely to reposition the tablet one inch closer).

In other words, streamline the mechanics, remove complexity creep, etc.

DiogoSilva.7089:

I think your average, non-hardcore player is more worried about usability issues than number tweaks. The tablet requires too much micromanaging, which may be fine with similar mechanics in games like League of legends, where combat is generally simpler, than it is in GW2, where you already have a lot of things to micromanage in the first place.

Most of the suggestions usually revolve around QoL changes that minimize button presses, like auto-summoning (scrap the mechanics for breaking a tablet, have the elite skill put all others on cooldown, and call it a day), auto-follow (if not always ON, then merely have it come closer when you leave its range, instead of having it break) or slighly bigger spells radius for a higher 6 cooldown (so that you don’t need to spam it so often merely to reposition the tablet one inch closer).

In other words, streamline the mechanics, remove complexity creep, etc.

Nah nothing against QoL stuff like reducing the clunkiness by making the tablet instacast or Port and for the autosummon IMO the best approach is autosummon on Skill usage. But a lot of the topics about ventari Balancing contained the suggestion of following and increasing condicleanse through the roof. (I should know that after all I read them all.)
Instacast/port while affecting numbers do not create the same problem a following tablet does.
Auto following creates a strong limitation on self heal and makes heal while the tablet is stationary inferior, while instacast/port only decreases the overall “reliability multiplier” mentioned in the first note.

BTW currently Ventaris numbers are below that of a druid/tempest.

Imo im up for deleting Ventari. Its a salad centaur, not a legendary figure by any means. He doesnt belong among Mallyx, Shiro, Jalis or Glint.

DiogoSilva.7089:

The tablet requires too much micromanaging,

This is my biggest problem with the Legend.

If 6 could be made to move the tablet to the Revenant without having to ground targeting, that would be a tremendous QoL!