Guild Wars 2

Flull disclosure, I’m running wupwup

But, it just has so much of everything. I love the energy management. I change up my rotations all the time depending on the situation. My specs flop around. I run different legends at different times. I swap my weapons depending on the enemy or challenge.

There is just a lot of good stuff here that is really compelling me to just keep playing and playing.

Nerfs and buffs come and go. Bugs crop up and disappear. The meat of a class stays the same, and I like the meat.

I like the positivity in your post… however, I have to disagree. But I’ll preface with a question for you first.

What are you primarily playing? PVP/WVW/PVE and what weapons do you primarily swap out? I find revenant/herald overall very weak in PVP/VWV post nerfs, hammer especially. Hammer is still viable for PVE metas and the like where all you need to do is sit back and auto attack while working in a Hammer 2. The healing nerf to Glint shield has pretty much made shield completely useless for me, combined with the fact that sword 1 and 3 were nerfed hard so your dps with sword/shield is completely gutted. The annoying thing, is that Glint is still almost entirely a mandatory legend to have slotted, for the party buffs and perma swiftness. The only other legends worth using are Dwarf/Shiro, and even Shiro needs work to be viable.

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Agreed. Revenant feels weak now. Vs most classes is usually an uphill battle. the sustain was gutted. Facing a competent reaper or druid means you should run the other way.

Its not the DPS nerf which hurts the most in sPVP as is the sustain. Right now rev sustain is nonexistant. Any competent player will stop attacking once you pop glint heal, which means you are left with a 3k heal or so. This is in addition to HAVING ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO COUNTER CONDITIONS. Right now any kind of condi class will butcher revs, no matter what and its ridiculous to have such a hard counter without having any kind of class strengths.

Hunter.4783:

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Agreed. Revenant feels weak now. Vs most classes is usually an uphill battle. the sustain was gutted. Facing a competent reaper or druid means you should run the other way.

Its not the DPS nerf which hurts the most in sPVP as is the sustain. Right now rev sustain is nonexistant. Any competent player will stop attacking once you pop glint heal, which means you are left with a 3k heal or so. This is in addition to HAVING ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO COUNTER CONDITIONS. Right now any kind of condi class will butcher revs, no matter what and its ridiculous to have such a hard counter without having any kind of class strengths.

Lol yes he was nerfed but the dmg is good and the little nerf to shield is not so a big deal.
Atm the revevenant is fine how it is .
Now its not so easy to play revenant fine but i like it.
U can kill evrything with this class and yes condi class es too.
Druids and condireaper are not so a big deal if u have a good rotation.
Im speaking about Power and NOT the condi build.
Condition rev is nice but is has soooo many counters.

Revs only have average damage now. And the shield is junk, the piddly heal is not worth the self root. And they explicitly said they had it selfrooting because the heal was good, and theyd have to weaken the heal if they removed the selfroot. Then what do they go and do? Weaken the heal while keeping the root.

Nice to see that it’s not the only one that have that “meh” feeling. I haven’t played my rev for a while. But the other day I went for a few hours in wvw and it was not the experience I had before. Dmg is ok and all but…yeah I don’t know.

Rev got boring bc no toys to play with? Sword all day long and Shiro/Glint? Yep..

Mallyx was good, dem maniacal laugh when i copied 10 different condi to all people around me.. yeah.. gone.

Trying to play with Jalis is only a frustration, Mallyx lost it fun factor after bwe2, Ventari is not something i consider fun. Glint was always boring boonbot and Shiro is just as hollow as Mallyx itself.

Pair that with no diversity between traits, only 1 bugged dps set etc and you get bored quick.

Or maybe im just fed up with this game as it doesnt take skill anymore.

Lol , of curse its not the same playfeeling cuse rev was OP.
I had only played rev After the Patch in pvp and rev is not so good in pvp than wvw but i had Tons of fun and could kill evry class.
This weekend i will try wvw.

Legiion.7385:

Lol , of curse its not the same playfeeling cuse rev was OP.
I had only played rev After the Patch in pvp and rev is not so good in pvp than wvw but i had Tons of fun and could kill evry class.
This weekend i will try wvw.

You wot? If i wanted to be op i would play condi reaper now and roll my face on keyboard. Srsly some people..

You know, I still think Rev is good (although riddled with issues), but I can’t help but think how crazy is it that if I’m against a Reaper, Shield is completely worthless.
Reaper Chill out-damages Crystal Hibernation’s healing per pulse and the constant Poison neuters all your healing potential even more.

Wander.5780:

I like the positivity in your post… however, I have to disagree. But I’ll preface with a question for you first.

What are you primarily playing? PVP/WVW/PVE and what weapons do you primarily swap out? I find revenant/herald overall very weak in PVP/VWV post nerfs, hammer especially. Hammer is still viable for PVE metas and the like where all you need to do is sit back and auto attack while working in a Hammer 2. The healing nerf to Glint shield has pretty much made shield completely useless for me, combined with the fact that sword 1 and 3 were nerfed hard so your dps with sword/shield is completely gutted. The annoying thing, is that Glint is still almost entirely a mandatory legend to have slotted, for the party buffs and perma swiftness. The only other legends worth using are Dwarf/Shiro, and even Shiro needs work to be viable.

I’m running sword/axe and Mace/sword (shield). Since I’m celi, I use Mace for more serious fights and sword to quick burst mooks.

I’m already 80 in mostly ascended, but I’m mainly doing map clear, dungeons, and some PvP right now. Normally I do a bit of everything.

I use demon stance unyielding anguish plus sword 2 to melt annoying mooks. The leech bolts add some good damage. In dungeons I’ve been running centaur/dwarf with my soilder necro mm buddy. We find the tankier specs easier for running dungeons in a straight forwarded way with random people. Centaur heals and projectile destruction is very useful in keeping sub 80s alive in combo with dwarf halving all damage, mass stab, and taunts.

In PvP, I’ve been gone for too long. I mashed buttons, killed a few people, but mainly got my teeth kicked in. It doesn’t help that my favorite spec was deemed OP and removed.

I’m waiting to unlock the elite spec as I slowly feel out the class, soloing group events at higher and higher levels.

Note: Shiro quickness gathers materials faster.

Marthkus.4615:

Note: Shiro quickness gathers materials faster.

It makes all* actions faster. ;p

*except for a few new chosen ones like ressing and defensive skills

Revenant still feels strong to me and I love the class but it remains with an incomplete feeling outside of skill rebalances. It needs more polish (Better Hammer hitboxes on uneven terrain, Sword 3 fix VS walls?), More Weapons (range condition weapon, another Power main hand for when sword gets boring…) and somekinda choice between Utilities. At least 1-2 extra utilities per Legendary that you could change would be satisfying enough. I just don’t feel like I have a lot of options.

Been maining Revenant since Xpac came out and it was crazy OP at first. It feels a lot more balanced now to be honest. I think the nerf to Retribution stability was stupid as it was more of a nerf to base Revenant than Herald but aside from that, the damage is still really nice and we still got pretty good sustain. If anything, I think Shield shouldn’t have been nerfed and only the trait changed to something different. I do think Condi reapers are a bit too strong right now though and that’s why most Revenants are having a tough time. I know I am but I can still beat condi reapers 1v1 pretty consistently. It is an uphill fight however.

The biggest issue for me are the kittened bugs. UA still doesn’t work as intended a lot of the times. I casted it on a Reaper that was literally less than 200 range from me and it didn’t go off, allowing the reaper to condi bomb me to hell. That isn’t the first time it’s happened either. Then it also tends to glitch out next to walls STILL.
Riposting Shadows lets enemies hit you while you’re still in the rolling animation which is dumb.
Then of course the buggy kitten Auto Attack on Sword. The list goes on though. Revenant is plagued with bugs.

Not sure how rev is in pvp, but its definitly top tier in wvw roaming.

LucianDK.8615:

Revs only have average damage now. And the shield is junk, the piddly heal is not worth the self root. And they explicitly said they had it selfrooting because the heal was good, and theyd have to weaken the heal if they removed the selfroot. Then what do they go and do? Weaken the heal while keeping the root.

well to be honest they didn’t weaken the actual heal, they gave it a cast time and took away the stun break (yes stunbreak on a heal that makes you immune to all dmg…)
the heal is still very strong, the biggest reason why is because noobs always keep attacking, imho the heal is strong when in outnumbered situations or vs noobs, even if you would rework it back you would still not get healed vs a good player so why the big fuss?

DHawk.2687:

LucianDK.8615:

Revs only have average damage now. And the shield is junk, the piddly heal is not worth the self root. And they explicitly said they had it selfrooting because the heal was good, and theyd have to weaken the heal if they removed the selfroot. Then what do they go and do? Weaken the heal while keeping the root.

took away the stun break

There was no stunbreak what they said is “We gave facet of light a cast time because it was being used as a stunbreak”. Also it’s just as strong as your oponents mindlessness be it in teamfights or in 1v1.

I think you guys are confused. Im not talking of Facet of Light, but Crystal Hibernation.

I repeat. Anet have stated that they didnt want to remove the self root on Crystal Hibernation, as they then would have to weaken the heal. But then what do they go and do? Weakening the heal, yet keeping the selfroot. Weak heal and selfroot is a deal breaker for me.

Laxus.3062:

Not sure how rev is in pvp, but its definitly top tier in wvw roaming.

7 slots of 20 in the finals of the Pro League season 1, only one of those teams (Vemillion) didn’t use two. Is doing it fine.

I, on the other side, still dislike Revenant. I’m so used to using five different utility skills, because usually not every skills in set, f.e. Guardian’s Meditations, are good, so you switch them with others and have like 3 meds and 2 from other set. And here? So what if I have 10 utility skills, if they suck combined together (and on 10 sec cooldown)? I would like Dwarf healing, cause it’s the best healing for me, but other than stability one, Jallys skills set sucks. Herald is BORING af. Shiro is not good enough, so I have to keep switching him. Only Mallyx shines a bit, but not all of his utilities are useful and I can’t possibly combine him with other Legend. Ventari? What is Ventari?

I think I’m going to strip naked my Rev and get part of my money back from him. So much wasted gold, it’s unbelivable (I tried two different eq sets, Rev still sucked).

No, pardon me, Rev do not sucks, I just don’t get and dislike that particular playstyle.

Marthkus.4615:

Wander.5780:

I like the positivity in your post… however, I have to disagree. But I’ll preface with a question for you first.

What are you primarily playing? PVP/WVW/PVE and what weapons do you primarily swap out? I find revenant/herald overall very weak in PVP/VWV post nerfs, hammer especially. Hammer is still viable for PVE metas and the like where all you need to do is sit back and auto attack while working in a Hammer 2. The healing nerf to Glint shield has pretty much made shield completely useless for me, combined with the fact that sword 1 and 3 were nerfed hard so your dps with sword/shield is completely gutted. The annoying thing, is that Glint is still almost entirely a mandatory legend to have slotted, for the party buffs and perma swiftness. The only other legends worth using are Dwarf/Shiro, and even Shiro needs work to be viable.

I’m running sword/axe and Mace/sword (shield). Since I’m celi, I use Mace for more serious fights and sword to quick burst mooks.

I’m already 80 in mostly ascended, but I’m mainly doing map clear, dungeons, and some PvP right now. Normally I do a bit of everything.

I use demon stance unyielding anguish plus sword 2 to melt annoying mooks. The leech bolts add some good damage. In dungeons I’ve been running centaur/dwarf with my soilder necro mm buddy. We find the tankier specs easier for running dungeons in a straight forwarded way with random people. Centaur heals and projectile destruction is very useful in keeping sub 80s alive in combo with dwarf halving all damage, mass stab, and taunts.

In PvP, I’ve been gone for too long. I mashed buttons, killed a few people, but mainly got my teeth kicked in. It doesn’t help that my favorite spec was deemed OP and removed.

I’m waiting to unlock the elite spec as I slowly feel out the class, soloing group events at higher and higher levels.

Note: Shiro quickness gathers materials faster.

Read: Revenant is awesome in open world PvE. Well, that’s really nice for you, but literally everything works in open world PvE (and dungeons unless you want speedruns). That may be a statement to your personal enjoyment of the class, but it says nothing about the viability of the class in instanced content, PvP or WvW.

Then again you just posted you like this class, about which I’m not sure what it’s supposed to do. Start a discussion? Well, I do like Revenant (or more specifically Herald because base Revenant is garbage) a lot, I like the style and I like the idea of it. But too many broken things and unwarranted nerfs (because of PvP and WvW) butchered the fun for me.