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Posted by: philheat.3956

philheat.3956

Do you have found a viable build to face these cheesy prof?

BTW not hot join player or unranked players, only effective against good necro and ele ranked level.

Thx

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Posted by: Timston.1976

Timston.1976

Yes I do. It’s cele revenant. It counters cele ele pretty hard. What you do is you run vamp runes with mace/axe staff, use mallyx/Shiro of course, and stack confusion and torment on them right after they swap out of water. Save your resistance boon for when the ele swaps into fire, another good tip is to use jade winds when the swap into water, or interrupt their channeled heal with staff 5. That’s the best counter that I have used so far in both beta weekends. Have fun making the facerollers cry,!

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Posted by: nearlight.3064

nearlight.3064

Don’t forget to use axe 4 after they dodge in water to chill them and mess up their attunement recharge, it’s ele busting 101.

I’m still not entirely sure if celestial revenant is worth it to be honest, but I’m having good luck with dedicated condi based heralds.

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Posted by: Rygg.6237

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Posted by: KronosBaelfire.6289

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I’ve been looking for a viable PvP build to try out. This one looks really good. Thanks for this, will try it out!

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Posted by: philheat.3956

philheat.3956

Honestly i don’t think a build without mallyx can be viable.

And not offense but eles can remove condis really well outside water, so probably you didn’t face very good eles.

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Posted by: Chaotic.9742

Chaotic.9742

Honestly i don’t think a build without mallyx can be viable.

A Shiro/Glint, marauder amulet build is devastating in the right hands. Mallyx is great, but definitely not mandatory.

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Posted by: Malchior.5732

Malchior.5732

Honestly i don’t think a build without mallyx can be viable.

And not offense but eles can remove condis really well outside water, so probably you didn’t face very good eles.

At best they have to pop they’re Cantrips to do so; they have no other option outside of Water and all of them have large cooldowns(Lightning Flash being the shortest at 32 seconds).

A Mallyx Revenant stripping the Ele’s Might and applying Confusion can quickly kill them after they switch out of Water. Revenant also has a decent amount of Chill application(and the Mallyx trait line has even more Boon Stripping). They’re basically designed to be Ele killers.

Outside of Mallyx, a Shiro/Glint build can do a good amount of damage and it’s gonna take a while for the Ele to take him out since his burst is so obvious(Glint heal helps a ton here).

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Posted by: philheat.3956

philheat.3956

Honestly i don’t think a build without mallyx can be viable.

And not offense but eles can remove condis really well outside water, so probably you didn’t face very good eles.

At best they have to pop they’re Cantrips to do so; they have no other option outside of Water and all of them have large cooldowns(Lightning Flash being the shortest at 32 seconds).

Outside water

Traits:

Burning Fire
Shooting ice
Shooting Disruption

Utility
Cleansing Fire (4 condis, 3 + 1)
Lighting flash (1)
Armor of Earth (1)

Every good ranked eles play this stuff.

Maybe is a bad Ele killer not at all a good Ele killer

Cele Reaper can do a really better job against an Ele (and it’s a a pain to deal with it from a reve prospective)

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Posted by: My Sweet Lily.1952

My Sweet Lily.1952

My take on Cele Reve
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I can go confidently 1v1 any class with this, while offering boons and ferocity to allies among other utility in teamfights. Only downside is just 1 stunbreak.

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Posted by: Azure.8670

Azure.8670

I’ve been looking for a viable PvP build to try out. This one looks really good. Thanks for this, will try it out!

pretty sure a decent MM necro would fold this in half, and quickly

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Posted by: Malchior.5732

Malchior.5732

Honestly i don’t think a build without mallyx can be viable.

And not offense but eles can remove condis really well outside water, so probably you didn’t face very good eles.

At best they have to pop they’re Cantrips to do so; they have no other option outside of Water and all of them have large cooldowns(Lightning Flash being the shortest at 32 seconds).

Outside water

Traits:

Burning Fire
Shooting ice
Shooting Disruption

Utility
Cleansing Fire (4 condis, 3 + 1)
Lighting flash (1)
Armor of Earth (1)

Every good ranked eles play this stuff.

Maybe is a bad Ele killer not at all a good Ele killer

Cele Reaper can do a really better job against an Ele (and it’s a a pain to deal with it from a reve prospective)

…Burning Fire cleanses when they have 3 conditions. Banish Enchantment(whatever it’s called) just puts Confusion. You could just keep pressuring anyway because you just want the Boons down.
Soothing Ice is on a big enough CD, is passive, and is often not even used. Soothing Distuption is literally the only way they can cleanse with Cantrips outside of Cleansing Fire, which again, have huge cooldowns.
The point anyway is to remove the Boons and cause him to waste all his stuff which is exactly what the Rev is doing.

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Posted by: JohnnyZero.5619

JohnnyZero.5619

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I’ve been having a lot of success with this build, it is doing very well against a lot of standard specs, like DD cele ele, reapers, thieves. Essentially a 1v1 machine while providing team boons and is a a really good +1 class with Shiro’s Phase Traversal and the burst combo.

I run Facet of Nature, Elements and Strength between fights and roaming from point to point.

When I’m about initiate, I drop One with Nature, Elemental Blast and sometimes Burst of Strength. Swap to Shiro, Enchanted Daggers (Shiro Heal) and Unrelenting Assault. It does A LOT of damage, and at the end of it you’ll have 25 might on yourself for about 3-4 seconds to continue pressure.

Obvious issues with this build is severe lack of condi clear, which is why I run staff and Generosity sigil on it. A tanky chronomancer will be difficult to kill, MM necros have an advantage because of how Unrelenting Assault spreads damage over nearby enemies, and well played burn guardians can be problematic if they time their blocks/invuln for your burst.

Lots of stun breaks, don’t forget Gaze of Darkness on Glint is a stun break/reveal. Impossible Odds is super useful for downed pressure, stomping, and just pressure in general. Also is great for rezzing in conjunction with the Glint heal.

My favorite moments so far are straight up 100-0’ing thieves that aren’t running vamp runes, being a kitten decent on point team fighter when rotating my skills appropriately and there’s not a lot of condis, and watching Unrelenting Assault follow Thieves and Mesmers through their blinks and shadow steps. And yes, it will follow Mesmers through Portal.

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Posted by: Rygg.6237

Rygg.6237

An update to the builds: Assassin’s pressence is better at dealing damage than vicious lacerations and it increases ferocity for your team mates, so it’s a superior choice.