Priority with Malyx/Shiro Rev

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Posted by: posthumecaver.6473

posthumecaver.6473

I know this build became FOTM but I have difficulties to figure out priority system.

How are you using this build?

Are you spamming Banish Enchantment and Unyielding Assault and wait the enemy destroy itself or you wait the moment you need resistance then use this skills and fight with your weapon skills?

Or turn on and off continuously the Elite for burn and resistance.

Because those don’t have CDs, it difficult to understand from stream how people using it.

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Posted by: iroh.2871

iroh.2871

I’ve been running a condi build on my revenant since the BWE3 changes(clearly I loved it). I don’t use Shiro because it really doesn’t offer much in the way of conditions. So, I run herald for the extra burning skill as well as the might stacking. Other than those two things(and the strong knockback from Glint’s elite for breakbars) I primarily stay in Mallyx as that is where most of my damage comes from and, like you mentioned, the elite skill is a toggle so I can keep Diabolic Inferno on cooldown. Here’s my rotation, for the most part:

Start the fight in Glint stacking as much might as possible using Mace/Axe; Initiate with Elemental Blast(Facet of Elements active); toggle and activate One With Nature; swap to Mallyx; toggle Embrace the Darkness; cast Unyielding Anguish; cast Searing Fissure; cast Echoing Eruption; if EtD hasn’t depleted your energy by now to turn itself off, toggle it off yourself; cast Temporal Rift; cast Searing Fissure; toggle Embrace the Darkness on; cast Echoing Eruption; cast Searing Fissure; if EtD hasn’t depleted your energy by now to turn itself off, toggle it off yourself; etc. etc.

At some point you’ll want to make sure you swap back to Glint to re-stack some might and cast Elemental Blast, but, as I said, I pretty much stay in Mallyx. So, based on my rotation, I would prioritize as follows:

1. Diabolic Inferno – You can’t forget to keep toggling Embrace the Darkness to proc this. Since we don’t have a visible cd for this, it’s just going to take some practice.

2. Searing Fissure – This skill has an extremely short cooldown. In fact, it’s short enough to where you can keep the fire field up with maybe a half-second of downtime between fields. But aside from not forgetting EtD for Diabolic Inferno, this skill is what allows you to maintain any semblance of burning stacks. If the boss is moving and not staying in the field to stack the burning, that’s ok because the torment you’ve been stacking is now dealing double damage.

3. Echoing Eruption/Temporal Rift – Aside from your AA, the Corruption spec line(Rampant Vex – first minor slot), and EtD, these two skills are your primary source of maintaining stacks of torment. Both skills need to be kept on cooldown, so energy management is going to be key if you want to consistently cast Temporal Rift(it’s a 5 skill and those typically have longer cooldowns).

4. Elemental Blast – This is just another source of burning. You may think that Mallyx is all about the torment, and you’re not completely wrong, but a HUGE part of your damage comes from burning. You can’t forget to switch to Glint for this skill and the might.

5. Unyielding Anguish – This skill is only this low on the list due to its energy cost. It’s incredibly strong and should be used if you’re ever around or above 50% energy. Before I started focusing on maintaining my burning stacks, I was solely focused on my torment stacks. Using this skill I’ve actually been able to maintain a higher average of torment stacks than EtD. At one point I think I was hitting close to 5k dmg per tick while the boss was stationary. But I was hardly stacking burning and my damage was suffering.

That’s what I’ve found the most successful for condi-rev. It’s important to note, though, that this is for PvE only. I don’t claim to know about PvP, sorry. But, for what I use it for, this spec is fun as kitten, and I can pump out some pretty awesome damage if I’m focused. The only problem with condi-rev, though, is if you compare it to any other condi-friendly class(engis, rangers, necros, etc.) it’s utterly dwarfed. Honestly the traits(and the heal, frankly) that pertain to conditions you have on yourself need to be updated so they’re more appropriate for the current state of the specialization.

Hopefully this was helpful!

-Tea Maker Iroh

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Posted by: Agemnon.4608

Agemnon.4608

I really like to save superspeed Shiro skill for stomping and rezzing but it’s usually on cooldown. Save unrelenting assault for DH traps. I try but get interrupted and pulled in sometimes still.

Your cooldown is your energy so a lot of abilities are on shared cooldown if you think about it. Try to save energy and keep up the Mallyx elite form around classes vulnerable to conditions like thief and guardian.

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Posted by: Darknicrofia.2604

Darknicrofia.2604

I’ve been running a condi build on my revenant since the BWE3 changes(clearly I loved it). I don’t use Shiro because it really doesn’t offer much in the way of conditions. So, I run herald for the extra burning skill as well as the might stacking. Other than those two things(and the strong knockback from Glint’s elite for breakbars) I primarily stay in Mallyx as that is where most of my damage comes from and, like you mentioned, the elite skill is a toggle so I can keep Diabolic Inferno on cooldown. Here’s my rotation, for the most part:

Start the fight in Glint stacking as much might as possible using Mace/Axe; Initiate with Elemental Blast(Facet of Elements active); toggle and activate One With Nature; swap to Mallyx; toggle Embrace the Darkness; cast Unyielding Anguish; cast Searing Fissure; cast Echoing Eruption; if EtD hasn’t depleted your energy by now to turn itself off, toggle it off yourself; cast Temporal Rift; cast Searing Fissure; toggle Embrace the Darkness on; cast Echoing Eruption; cast Searing Fissure; if EtD hasn’t depleted your energy by now to turn itself off, toggle it off yourself; etc. etc.

At some point you’ll want to make sure you swap back to Glint to re-stack some might and cast Elemental Blast, but, as I said, I pretty much stay in Mallyx. So, based on my rotation, I would prioritize as follows:

1. Diabolic Inferno – You can’t forget to keep toggling Embrace the Darkness to proc this. Since we don’t have a visible cd for this, it’s just going to take some practice.

2. Searing Fissure – This skill has an extremely short cooldown. In fact, it’s short enough to where you can keep the fire field up with maybe a half-second of downtime between fields. But aside from not forgetting EtD for Diabolic Inferno, this skill is what allows you to maintain any semblance of burning stacks. If the boss is moving and not staying in the field to stack the burning, that’s ok because the torment you’ve been stacking is now dealing double damage.

3. Echoing Eruption/Temporal Rift – Aside from your AA, the Corruption spec line(Rampant Vex – first minor slot), and EtD, these two skills are your primary source of maintaining stacks of torment. Both skills need to be kept on cooldown, so energy management is going to be key if you want to consistently cast Temporal Rift(it’s a 5 skill and those typically have longer cooldowns).

4. Elemental Blast – This is just another source of burning. You may think that Mallyx is all about the torment, and you’re not completely wrong, but a HUGE part of your damage comes from burning. You can’t forget to switch to Glint for this skill and the might.

5. Unyielding Anguish – This skill is only this low on the list due to its energy cost. It’s incredibly strong and should be used if you’re ever around or above 50% energy. Before I started focusing on maintaining my burning stacks, I was solely focused on my torment stacks. Using this skill I’ve actually been able to maintain a higher average of torment stacks than EtD. At one point I think I was hitting close to 5k dmg per tick while the boss was stationary. But I was hardly stacking burning and my damage was suffering.

That’s what I’ve found the most successful for condi-rev. It’s important to note, though, that this is for PvE only. I don’t claim to know about PvP, sorry. But, for what I use it for, this spec is fun as kitten, and I can pump out some pretty awesome damage if I’m focused. The only problem with condi-rev, though, is if you compare it to any other condi-friendly class(engis, rangers, necros, etc.) it’s utterly dwarfed. Honestly the traits(and the heal, frankly) that pertain to conditions you have on yourself need to be updated so they’re more appropriate for the current state of the specialization.

Hopefully this was helpful!

-Tea Maker Iroh

the point of Shiro is so you can actually do something vs diamond skin eles

(also the on demand superspeed and practically infinite dodges)

glint doesn’t offer anything extra that mallyx or your weapon set can’t already do other than the OP heal, which you shouldn’t really need if you play correctly.

Darknicrofia Sage – Bad Gerdian, Merciless Legend, Platinum NA Solo Que

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Posted by: iroh.2871

iroh.2871

vs diamond skin eles

If you read what I finished with, I told him that was for PvE only. I don’t claim to know kitten about PvP and, franky, I like it that way.