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Posted by: frayon.3984

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So after talking with several people here I have edited the build on a different site: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlUQNAS8nnbbkonEpqk5qEKrEYsEFNFht852tBW0A-TBSBABUcQAKa/BLV/piLAgZKBvS5He6GA4JAQKgRlaB-e

One trait line is missing because the site doesn’t have herald on it so it’s here:
Herald:
Boon duration comes with this line which means your damage will be up for even just a little longer while under the effects of fury. It also means might will last longer on you and the other boons you get while in dragon stance.
Hardening Persistence: Gain toughness for each point of upkeep you are currently using. – As it was pointed out to me this is huge bonus to your toughness and thus your survivability.
Shared Empowerment: When you apply a boon to an ally, also apply might to nearby allies – while in dragon stance will have facet of darkness activated for the fury this is also granting might to your allies and while it’s not much might it’s still helping to keep the might up there for them and for you.
Elder’s Force: Increased damage per boon on you – More damage. I think it was 2% in the video. I played with the ranger’s 1% skill for a time and most of the time I could keep 5 boons on him at a time which is just as much as a superior sigil of force. In good team set ups it was a 11% bonus damage I wouldn’t have had otherwise (two sigils of force at once). This is a 2% increase to that which is 10% for 5 boons (two sigils of force again) and 22% for 11 boons (just over four sigils of force). It might not seem like much until you take a look at it. It is as much as carrying around a sigil of force with you and is better than the minor sigil if you just keep up fury on yourself.

Note: This was edited after the post from Kidel on the 40% and that conversation there.

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Posted by: savacli.8172

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Sw/A makes for a great PvE weapon set. Off-hand Sword felt a little clunky but was very useful for the Blocking ‘stance’. Hammer had great damage, but my use of it was limited to ranged fights or engaging from afar.

Devastation Line looks good though I don’t know how well Assassin’s Annihilation would work for sustain.

Invocation line look good as well, but Increased Response seems to situational to use. Fury should already be easy to come by with the proper party members. Invigorating flow feels rather useless with the 5s ICD. Thus, I would recommend Equilibrium for the Master slot.

Herald is very situational as well.

Swift Gale runs into the same problem as Increased Response. Radiant Revival is a great skill, though on a 45 second ICD it looks less appealing. Ideally, party members shouldn’t be going down either (may be more worthwhile if it included increased revive speed). Thus, I would take Hardening Persistence since it’s a universal trait (+40 – 400 passive toughness) not because it’s a great trait but rather it would be the most used of the three traits.

Shared Empowerment feels a bit like Empowering Might on a Guard (a Herald can give out about 8s worth a pulse) It’s great to have, though other classes may already be on might duty so mileage varies on this one. Harmonize Continuity is yet another situational Stun Break but even more so since it’s value lies in whether or not a group in being stunned simultaneously or individually at different intervals. Bolstering Fortification may win on this level for the same reason of being the most applicable.

Elder’s Force. I agree the hands down the go-to trait for this slot. Beyond the theoretical 22% the minimum felt like 4-6% with a reasonable sustain of 8-10% on an average group.

Shiro, as a Legend, felt like it was lacking quite a bit in group contribution. The heal was a little scary (and was ironically used for more damage), the infamous Impossible Odds got overshadowed by other applications of Quickness, and the other skills didn’t feel so great.

Mallyx felt like a better DPS contender with Embrace the Darkness, and the utility skills felt a bit more team-friendly.

If anything I feel like Mallyx/Glint would offer high damage while still providing for team support.

/my2copper

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

Full zerk is objectively a waste on Revenant since you easily go past 100% crit rate, so any precision over 52% crit is wasted. 52+fury+[war OR ranger OR food] is 97%-100% crit.
Superior Rune of the Scholar is always nice, but it’s less synergic with Revenant then other runes, expecially if you use Glint. Just Glint+Rune of Rage means 100% Fury uptime, so +12% damage and +20% crit rate, even after you legendswap.
This means that you don’t need many of the invocation traits related to Fury except the minor ones, and you can pick more survivability stuff.
As you can see I have easy 100% Fury uptime without Fierce Infusion and Increased Response, and I also have more multipliers and more vitality (so even more power with the sharpening stones).
And why superspeed on stunbreak? You already have superspeed and swiftness upkeeps with instacast on your legends. There are far better traits in that slot, both of them.

Sword+Shield is currently just a bet. I think Roy will want to make Shield worthwile, so it will probably end up better then the other weapons.
However I think that taking an off-hand for the damage is not smart on Revenant, since every offhand skill costs a lot of energy at the moment, so you may actually waste dps compared to AA and UA. Shield offers survivability and occasional skills, plus protection and a lot of heal (heal amount from Shield is comparable to Jalis heal).

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/revenant/Powerbuild-shiro-glint-jalis/page/2#post5390646

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAscinbbkonEpqk5qEKrEYsEFNFhdc62tBW0A-TBCBABGt/gFHCgKV/5MlgAcCAyS5Xe6DC4JAEA4A43+23fDc+5nf+5n3v/+7v/+bpAiYMA-e

  • Crystal Harbinger (You can now equip a shield, use legendary dragon stance skills, and gain access to the facet of nature)
  • Hardening Persistence (Gain toughness for each point of upkeep you are currently using) or Radiant Revival (Place infuse light on an ally while you revive them) for harder/group content. Hardening Persistence gives 400 Toughness during Impossible Odds, and that’s a lot.
  • Vigorous Persistence (Gain increased endurance regeneration while you have an active upkeep skill)
  • Shared Empowerment (When you apply a boon to an ally, also apply might to nearby allies) is a no brainer since protection is cool but basically kills Glint’s healing skill.
  • Envoy of Sustenance (Increased boon duration by 15%)
  • Elder’s Force (Increased damage per boon on you) another no brainer.

(edited by Kidel.2057)

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Posted by: frayon.3984

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The main reason for full zerker for me is all my gear is zerker. I know I can change over the armor but I’ve put a lot of work into the back item, trinkets, rings, and necklace. Those are the items that I don’t want to switch over. I will look into running knights armor (or another armor set) on my rev when the exp drops but I don’t think I am going to be changing over those six items. I didn’t think of the runes of rage at all. I’ve never looked at them expect in pvp briefly. It’s good to know they’re out there.

Thanks for the tips

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

np man, didn’t know it was your specific in game set. however keep in mind (even for full knight) that going over 52% crit rate on a Rev with invocation is a waste, so you may want to add some soldier or valkyrie here and there.
120% crit rate is the same as 100%. Reason why I’ll be having only 30% on my Reaper (can reach 150% from traits + fury lol)

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Posted by: frayon.3984

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np man, didn’t know it was your specific in game set. however keep in mind (even for full knight) that going over 52% crit rate on a Rev with invocation is a waste, so you may want to add some soldier or valkyrie here and there.
120% crit rate is the same as 100%. Reason why I’ll be having only 30% on my Reaper (can reach 150% from traits + fury lol)

After my last reply, I went in and looked at the sets and I am thinking full valkyrie. I couldn’t remember off the top of my head what stats went with which set. So I am going to get 6 of the insignias and just leave them in the bank for when HoT hits as well as 6 runes of rage. It’s just a little of a learning curve after getting used to the meta gear being zerker for so long and having to run it on just about every toon. The back item and trinkets I am going to have to leave until much later though. I am going to finish up with the back item I am working towards (which is already zerker it’s the fractal one) and then focus on the other items if need be. I will have to wait to be in game to see what the stats to on an lvl 80 rev. I didn’t have my full ascended until right after the beta weekend in heavy armor so I hadn’t transfered it over to my rev to see what happened with the stats.

Thanks for the help again

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

np. But also remember that full valkyrie can mean a loss of crit damage if you don’t have enough crit chance. So be sure to calculate it a bit beofre investing resources.

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Posted by: frayon.3984

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I am keeping my zerker rings, necklace, backitem, and trinkets. That’s six items with the precision stat on it.

It’s hard to see how this modifies the gear without jumping in changing all of it on my warrior right now (and I don’t want to do that). If I am still low on precision I am going make the weapons zerker as well (which I don’t have a full ascended set of those yet. Just working towards bolt first then will see to the axe, hammer, and shield (but those are also easy to stat change like the armor)). This might be the boost I need to keep the crit chance up. If zerker weapons overshoot then I can easily change the stats on them.

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

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Posted by: frayon.3984

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I think it’s around 12% (roughly) with the banner and spotter, but I couldn’t test spotter on my ranger. The banner is roughly 8% buff. So I think 40% is the sweet spot, which is full valkyrie armor, zerker weapons, trinkets, rings, necklace, and back item with food being the butternut squash soup and the bountiful sharpening stones.

Ty again for all of your help It also made me realize my warrior is a little over as well ^^;

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

40% base is not bad on Rev. Be sure to be able to get 100% futy uptime in both legends

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Posted by: frayon.3984

frayon.3984

Thanks again

I just edited the post so that it links to the new build. If you add 3 precision infusions you have 40% on it. With the boon duration I think it will hit the spot for the upkeep of the fury.