PvE/WvW Alternate Set

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Posted by: Brendan.5489

Brendan.5489

Q:

Howdy,

I’m working on making an alternate set from Berserker on my Revenant, primarily to boost my survivability (most notably for WvW, but perhaps for PvE as well).

I’m currently considering Knight or Marauder, but if anyone feels there is a better option, please enlighten me!

What do you think is best and why? Perhaps I only need to swap out my accessories, but I’m alright with going for a full set.

- Wulfhroc

EDIT: Current Build:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAsXinvN2gS6JvQRVlbosryPUYW5IKYs8ElFNFyegJshtLIANgdMnpNA-TBSBwA3U/5xJAg2+Do0XcV5HgnEgZlgLOkABAOA46AA-e

EDIT 2: My Solution

PvE – http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAsXinvN2gS6JvQRVlbosryPUYW5IKYs8ElFNFidMnpNtLIANwegJshA-TBSBAB0s/wiKBxTfBlq/AwTCALlfPcCBW4QA8NYAYIEBRwMzMT7IiIkCIilRA-e

WvW – http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQJAWinXN2gSqJvQRDlbosfyPUYQ5IKYr8EllZlh9la2xO6r/WNgCeA-TBTBABYpMg8HAwDHQAAOSA8s/Ae6KW4QA0lSvKV1xT1CMTJoGXAgAAIA38mZzbmG3YO6RP6RP6R7628m38m3sUAFpMC-e

(edited by Brendan.5489)

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Posted by: Kodiak.3281

Kodiak.3281

A:

I took a break after release but when I came back my two sets I had setup are still fantastic in terms of performance.

This is my PvE Build

Pretty standard build. I also swap to Axe but prefer Shield when soloing HOT content. Same when running fractals to swap to staff for breakbar removal if needed. I prefer the few extra HP I mix in and with Fury up it’s sitting fine with crit. Plenty of Might duration to keep stacks when soloing.

This is my WvW build however.

So with this I basically have 2500 power (still), over 3100 armor, 18k HP, -40% condi duration, and still 204% crit damage with 18% crit (really 58% cause we always have fury on us). This setup gives you a full range of options and many defensive moves to get out of anything short of an instant-down scenario. Honestly it’s the best of all worlds once you get used to timing your dodges proactively to generate stability.

Staff provides strong mobility, defenses and pretty decent Cleave while you can use Dragon Facets for damage (Strength and Elements). You also still have Hammer which is devastating in WvW regardless of where you are in a fight (front, mid or backline). With this build I can easily hang with the front line and am just as comfortable in the back with little worries for self survivability.

Dwarf stance is basically your “Oh !@#$” button as you pop to dwarf (stun break), then pop Rite (stun break 2) and you should be able to keep going with a strong condi cleanse heal as well. Don’t forget that Vengeful Hammers is a -20% damage reduction as well which stacks on top of -10% from Close Quarters and -10% from Determined Resolution on top of 3100 armor just makes you tanky as all get out on demand.

The only thing of some annoyance is stability, but with Enhanced Bulwark and Unwavering Avoidance you should be able to hold your own. The the biggest issue seems to be Dragon Hunter Bow #5 but with good positioning I was usually able to dodge/stab roll out of them.

Might not work for everyone, but I enjoy it immensely

Kodiak X – Blackgate

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Posted by: Brendan.5489

Brendan.5489

Thank you. I appreciate you sharing your builds! You’re doing something that I’ve been considering doing, a bit of mixing within each set. Berserker + Valkyrie makes a lot of sense, vice a full investment into Marauder. That, and the Soldier + Cavalier mix into your WvW build.

It’s just balancing numbers. These build editors are extremely useful. I don’t know why I haven’t messed with one before!

Looking at your exact statistics, I see your trade-offs, and they make a lot of sense. Still, the one thing I’m not sure about is:

“How much Toughness and Vitality do I really need/want?”

I think I may need to find that balance myself, while I’m still running around in exotics and building towards ascended gear, but I have to say, I’m really not sure.

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Posted by: Brendan.5489

Brendan.5489

I posted my original build in the topic. It’s quite literally all berserker gear.

This is what I’m considering for PvE:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAsXinvN2gS6JvQRVlbosryPUYW5IKYs8ElFNFidMnpNtLIANwegJshA-TRSBwA3Ul4xJAwsSwcqtQb/BU6LA8kAWcIBuq8LAwBAXHAA-e

This is what I’m considering for WvW:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAsXinvN2gS6JvQRVlbosryPUYW5IKYs8ElFNFidMnpNtLIANwegJshA-ThSBAB8s/QXK9wRdnrUGYmSQAeSAoovoUVCe4EAswhEIAwBAXHAA-e

Both modeled largely off of your values. All weapons and armor are exotic. Do you think these would be effective?

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Posted by: Kodiak.3281

Kodiak.3281

Looks pretty solid. The only comments I have are:

1. You really want Cruel Repercussion and Malicious Reprisal. All the complaining you hear about Revenants in WvW is because of Cruel Repercussion. See there’s a tons of Guardians out there as they are staple to any WvW comp which in turn means lots of Aegis. Especially with new Dragon Hunters everyone is using their “F3” ability which gives Aegis plus blocks all incoming damage. So what is going to happen is you are going to do COR, it’s going to get blocked cause of Aegis. The next COR then will have Cruel Repercussion and you will have Malicious Reprisal which means they can’t block your COR again.

2. You really won’t be using Sword/Axe that much except maybe after runners, using Impossible Odds to catch up with super Speed and then Axe to close on them from range. However most cases you will be using Hammer in this setup. Most setups I know of use Staff as their backup cause even if you don’t use it as front line, it has plenty of defensive tools on it which are useful if just for you surviving/getting out.

3. Your biggest issues are going to be stun breaks and defense. You basically have almost no CC break or Condi management in your build cause you’re running double offensive Legends in Shiro/Glint and swapped out Retribution for Devastation. This means without dedicated Guardians giving you Stability you won’t make it as the group moves because you’ll get caught in CC like Guardian Line of Warding, Elementalist Static Fields and Earth Lines or even Necros Spectral Wall.

This creates a bit of a headache scenario because Shiro has a reliable stun break (Riposting Shadows) but not the fury you need from Facet of Darkness. If you go after Fierce Infusion instead of Cruel Repercussion to fill the Fury gap you lose out on that big damage boost. You can get away without needing Fury, but then that’s an entirely other gear set!

The good news is these are all things that are trait/build related and can be changed if you find yourself hating life later without having to swap around your gear as much. So you can give it a try, and if you hate life, swap it back. On nights I have reliable Guardians to give me Stability I also swap out Retribution for Devastation as well.

Kodiak X – Blackgate