Guild Wars 2

Been curious about it for a while and i dont know anymore.

Invocation boosts fury which in turn allow me to have basically 100 crit chance. Under fury also +7% extra dmg, stunbreak on legend swap. Lack healing.

Devastation provides temporary 10% atk buff to sword assuming youll stick to your target, some extra vul here and there, 7% extra dmg to targets with vul on, +150 aoe ferocity, life stealing on foes with vul and annihilation trait or extra 20% damage to foes under 50% hp.

Might be just me but inst 100 crit chance superior to the whole dev line? The healing while is always something doesnt make much difference in pvp actually when you can get auto for 3k. Thoughts?

Burtnik.5218:

Been curious about it for a while and i dont know anymore.

Invocation boosts fury which in turn allow me to have basically 100 crit chance. Under fury also +7% extra dmg, stunbreak on legend swap. Lack healing.

Devastation provides temporary 10% atk buff to sword assuming youll stick to your target, some extra vul here and there, 7% extra dmg to targets with vul on, +150 aoe ferocity, life stealing on foes with vul and annihilation trait or extra 20% damage to foes under 50% hp.

Might be just me but inst 100 crit chance superior to the whole dev line? The healing while is always something doesnt make much difference in pvp actually when you can get auto for 3k. Thoughts?

How about grab both?

I would if Jalis didnt sucked.. As it stands now Glint is superior which makes her mandatory, i was considering Mallyx for resistance tho. For now howered im going for x/retribution/herald with Shiro (always due to mobility). Dwarf battle stance and stab on dodge is too good to pass.

I use shiro/glint with devastation, invocation and herald. The only need to use retribution is for stability, but shiro has sufficient stun breakers

Seigfried.5938:

I use shiro/glint with devastation, invocation and herald. The only need to use retribution is for stability, but shiro has sufficient stun breakers

This.
The only thing shiro lacks is healing, but you have shield to compensate, and even hammer and staff have ways to heal (with hammer is 4+1 combo)

That fury trait doesn’t give you 100% crit chance it gives fury’s effect 100% meaning 100% of 20 is 20, so 20+20 = 40% crit from fury instead of 20%.

You only gain an extra 20% from the trait.

Mightybird.6034:

That fury trait doesn’t give you 100% crit chance it gives fury’s effect 100% meaning 100% of 20 is 20, so 20+20 = 40% crit from fury instead of 20%.

You only gain an extra 20% from the trait.

If you use marauder’s amulet with rolling mists, you can hit 94% crit chance with fury. It’s still good enough.

Seigfried.5938:

Mightybird.6034:

That fury trait doesn’t give you 100% crit chance it gives fury’s effect 100% meaning 100% of 20 is 20, so 20+20 = 40% crit from fury instead of 20%.

You only gain an extra 20% from the trait.

If you use marauder’s amulet with rolling mists, you can hit 94% crit chance with fury. It’s still good enough.

Wasn’t saying it wasn’t good, its a trait I’ll be taking for sure. But there is a myth out there that it gives 100% crit chance :P Wasn’t sure if OP thought it did or not since he didn’t mention amulet.

Seigfried.5938:

I use shiro/glint with devastation, invocation and herald. The only need to use retribution is for stability, but shiro has sufficient stun breakers

Anyone with decent access to weakness will ruin you tho. I know how many glacial hits i been doing last beta against necros/thiefs. Glacials all day long. Situation dramatically changed with new trait. Stab is also good to pressure someone and dont worry about cc like insta taunt from ranger or mantra from mes. Always better to prevent stuns rather than waste energy for stunbreaks which you could save up for odds/jade.

Mightybird.6034:

That fury trait doesn’t give you 100% crit chance it gives fury’s effect 100% meaning 100% of 20 is 20, so 20+20 = 40% crit from fury instead of 20%.

You only gain an extra 20% from the trait.

I know. Since air/fire nerf i been using accurace sigil. In betas i played rev with berserker amulet which would put me at 95% crit chance. Marauder is overrated on rev, its 5k hp which goes down in 1/2 hits.

I am going for Retribution/Devastation, I like to use Invocation instead of Retribution to use some tankier version to increase crit chance with Invocation tricks but without Retribution and any other source of stability I feel myself like a ping pong ball in Revenant.

Roy Cronacher.1576:

For a power build I’d suggest devastation and herald then for the third a choice between invocation and retribution based on your preferences.

I would argue about herald.. I would glady go for dev/retri/invo if Jalis was doing the job he was supposed to do and i hope you have some changes around the corner to make him viable

Im sick of boonbot Glint!!!

Burtnik.5218:

I would argue about herald.. I would glady go for dev/retri/invo if Jalis was doing the job he was supposed to do and i hope you have some changes around the corner to make him viable

Im sick of boonbot Glint!!!

I can understand not wanting to play a spec for whatever reason but not that you are sick of herald when it hasn’t even been released yet xD

Herald best class in the game.

Mightybird.6034:

Burtnik.5218:

I would argue about herald.. I would glady go for dev/retri/invo if Jalis was doing the job he was supposed to do and i hope you have some changes around the corner to make him viable

Im sick of boonbot Glint!!!

I can understand not wanting to play a spec for whatever reason but not that you are sick of herald when it hasn’t even been released yet xD

Well in different words..i dont enjoy the playstyle of Glint, i had much more fun with Jalis but he doesnt work at all in current state (lack of sustain) so im kinda forced into boonbot. For me its the same playstyle as banner war /shrug

If you use glint as boonbot then you’re managing it in the less efficient way

What else is there to Glint, outside of ele blast which i use off cd and burst of str? Chaotic release has too long cd to use it and cut myself from protection. Thats a fact. Its nice to bait dodges tho with wep stow.

Burtnik.5218:

What else is there to Glint, outside of ele blast which i use off cd and burst of str? Chaotic release has too long cd to use it and cut myself from protection. Thats a fact. Its nice to bait dodges tho with wep stow.

Why perma protection? Just use it to take in hits you can’t evade/block.

Varezenem.2813:

Burtnik.5218:

What else is there to Glint, outside of ele blast which i use off cd and burst of str? Chaotic release has too long cd to use it and cut myself from protection. Thats a fact. Its nice to bait dodges tho with wep stow.

Why perma protection? Just use it to take in hits you can’t evade/block.

Question is; why i should throw ability to get protection at any time i want for some weak launch with 45cd?

Burtnik.5218:

Seigfried.5938:

I use shiro/glint with devastation, invocation and herald. The only need to use retribution is for stability, but shiro has sufficient stun breakers

Anyone with decent access to weakness will ruin you tho. I know how many glacial hits i been doing last beta against necros/thiefs.

All the more reason to use invocation right? it has a condi clear whereas retribution doesn’t.

And I use staff as well. so with the 2 additional condi clears, I’m taken care of.

Seigfried.5938:

Burtnik.5218:

Seigfried.5938:

I use shiro/glint with devastation, invocation and herald. The only need to use retribution is for stability, but shiro has sufficient stun breakers

Anyone with decent access to weakness will ruin you tho. I know how many glacial hits i been doing last beta against necros/thiefs.

All the more reason to use invocation right? it has a condi clear whereas retribution doesn’t.

And I use staff as well. so with the 2 additional condi clears, I’m taken care of.

I dont swap every 10sec nor i dont run staff as double melee is pointless and too easy to kill. Hammer also does much better at preventing incoming conditions as most of them coming from guess it..projectiles. 1 condi clanse is nothing, and with current new cleansing system i would say pathetic. You might remove 12 stacks of burn or 3 stacks of vul.

With dwarf stance i can continue to do what i wanted to do ignoring weakness on me..same goes with enemy cc due to stab on dodge so yeh, its not traitline i plan to drop anytime soon if ever unless ill be playing in pve. Ill stick to devastation tho so case closed.