Guild Wars 2

Since the update patch, I’ve been trying out Jalis in PvP to see if it’s viable. Although most of the changes were for Ventari, Jalis had a couple of things:

1) Vengeful Hammers base damage increased by 100% (or about 50% total damage increase in a power build)
2) Forced Engagement energy cost reduced from 35 to 25 and cooldown increased from 5 to 10 seconds.
3) Rite of the Great Dwarf reduced from 50 to 40 energy (PvP only).

Briefly, I have not really found the damage increase on vengeful hammers noticeable, but I do like the skill. The reduced energy cost on Forced Engagement is very helpful, while simultaneously the increased cooldown does cause problems. I still rarely use RotGD due to the cost, but the reduced energy cost does help a bit.

Overall though, I still am struggling to find a place for Jalis in PvP. I have seen that some players use the new Ventari as a reasonable bunker, but it seems like Jalis really should be the ideal bunker legend, whereas Ventari should be for team support. Furthermore, Ventari works best with healing power while I would argue Jalis works best with toughness – there are no amulets that provide both, so you can only build effectively for one legend.

After the patch, Jalis is very vulnerable to conditions despite the condition damage reduction on hammers and RotGD, and energy costs are pretty high. Damage is also pretty mediocre (though this is to be expected). Although Jalis can be quite tanky, I don’t find it to be tanky enough to sit on point and eat AoEs, though it seems like it wants to do this. Conversely, Glint’s heal makes it the ultimate bunker (for 3 seconds every 30 seconds).

Has anyone else tried out Jalis in PvP recently? What are your thoughts, suggestions, or complaints?

I haven’t tried it, but I honestly don’t see the potential in this legend for Spvp. Maybe it can be alright as a frontliner in wvw?
The ideal bunker for pvp right now would be either druid or tempest, and there is no way Jalis can compete against that due to its up kit.

Arenanet seem hellbent on completely making Mallyx and Jalis completely unviable, Shiro has things a bit better but not by much, Ventari/Glint support build is the only actually viable thing you can use in Raids or PvP…Great work on balancing btw Arenanet really appreciate you guys throwing us a tiny scrap by slightly buffing Jalis in a pitful sad way…

(I’ve tried him he’s awful, almost worthless, I only use him in PvE for the theme, if I was actually serious my build would be out the window, I can manage to run high level fractals coasting on my skill level but thats it, if you want my advice, go play guardian)

I have made several suggestions on fixing him and Mallyx, as have several people, and Arenanet have completely ignored us…so I’m not reiterating here

Thanks for the input. I am still testing Jalis in PvP and have found one bunker-ish build that seems okay, though in reality is is likely not good enough to compete. I am trying to decide what to do for the upcoming Season 6. I will still play Revenant, but I am deciding between:
-standard Power Shiro
-hybrid mace/sword build I have had reasonable success with
-Jalis bunker (most interested in this, but it’s probably not good enough)
-I am not interested in Ventari healer for now

What is everyone else doing for S6? Shelving your Rev? If you’re sticking with Rev, what build(s) are you playing?

testing again jalis/ventari. in equal fights its hard to be killed.
jalis is nice for its support abilities on point stability weakness, cc and dmg reduction. but than you need the team to support you till you build up your nrg back.

when ressing i use VH to gain hp back little bit and do dmg.
i use mace to give might stacks and blast finisher when needed.

ranger is still better for bunkering and ele better in healing . seem that rev is good at both

the problem with rev is that we dont got much stunbreak so cc chain kill us quickly

I still haven’t tested Ventari, but bunker/ bruiser Jalis, hybrid mace/sword haven’t been working out well enough for me to try in S6. I think I will be sticking with standard power Shiro again. If anyone tries any different builds in S6, such as Ventari bunker / support, please make sure to let us know how it works out.