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Posted by: SolarDragon.7063

SolarDragon.7063

I honestly don’t see how rev is meant to deal with condi classes. Even single condi classes (aka dragonburns) can easily outdo what little I can scratch together. Jallis heal clears a meagre three condis in exchange for a forced legend purely for condi clear… what the hell am I missing? Are we meant to all use Sig of Energy and dodge all day because thats our only counter to condition classes?
And Mallyx, our supposed condition legend… needs to strip condis off allies to get resistance. If you’ve only got your own condis… well you’re kitten outta luck.

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Posted by: arenta.2953

arenta.2953

we have staff 4…….but its not removing conditions from yourself as often as it should

it only removes conditions 30% of the time……and onyl 2 of them…….with a long cooldown in this cripple spamm frost spam meta….

it sucks T.T

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Posted by: Cell.6821

Cell.6821

Interested in the answer as well. I’m coming from Celestial Signet Necro so the adjustment is really big.

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Posted by: Trepidation Lost.3469

Trepidation Lost.3469

reve just sucks atm. so annoyed i wasted time making it :l

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

I was asking myself the same question. How is dps revenant supposed to clear conditions? one cleanse every 9 seconds and two every 15 which bugs out half of the time? How is that even remotely enough for how fast classes apply conditions?

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Posted by: Alasteir.7031

Alasteir.7031

I think the only way you can reliably remove conditions in anyway as a Revenant you would need to take the Centaur Stance, since you can use it to remove 3 conditions every 5 seconds if you have the energy, plus it heals per condition used. In pvp, even the glassy thief had more condition removal, so I feel like Centaur Stance might be a requirement to help survive, given how many conditions there are. A dead dps does no dps afterall.

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Posted by: Numot.3965

Numot.3965

If you want to deal with conditions you’ll need to either run Mallyx with demonic defiance, Jalice, or time Glint’s heal to negate them.

Also, pain absorption always gives resistance, it just gives bonus if you have more on you.

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Posted by: Kirk.3086

Kirk.3086

Centaurs can’t remove condies too.
30 energy for 3 condies? Better use shiro stun for 50!
P.s. condies applies too fast at pvp!

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Posted by: SolarDragon.7063

SolarDragon.7063

Wow, I guess we actually are as bad at condi removal as I thought o.o I was expecting a dozen “l2p’s” but I guess this is actually a huge class weakness.

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Posted by: Varezenem.2813

Varezenem.2813

After the hit on our survivability it’s even a big problem for ventari/glint…

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Posted by: Hooglese.4860

Hooglese.4860

You could try lyssa runes but tbh theres not a kitten thing you can do

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Posted by: Wolfs Shadow.7234

Wolfs Shadow.7234

GW2 is in a condition meta still with the introduction of a class that lacks condition removal.

The irony

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Posted by: Demented Yak.6105

Demented Yak.6105

SolarDragon.7063: Are we meant to all use Sig of Energy and dodge all day because thats our only counter to condition classes?

That is exactly right.

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Posted by: DresdenAllblack.1249

DresdenAllblack.1249

This is obviousily an oversight, the devs can sing the praises of two heals at once all they want, but if the only thing we have to scape condis off is Jalis and legend swap then we are doomed to fail.

They thought too highly of the double heals. Because they are all inferior.

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Posted by: tarcheg.4872

tarcheg.4872

I know it’s not what you wanna hear, because you are pigeonholed into one certain stance, but Demonic Defiance is a great answer against all conditions.

But it’s nothing for the meta assassin/glint stance build.

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Posted by: messiah.1908

messiah.1908

go to learn from thief who also dont have good condi cleanse but stealth
so learn to engage and disengage fast with shiro and heal through with life steal and fast dmg
use your legendary swap, generosity, staff, malyx etc… just time it right and you’ll do fine

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

go to learn from thief who also dont have good condi cleanse but stealth
so learn to engage and disengage fast with shiro and heal through with life steal and fast dmg
use your legendary swap, generosity, staff, malyx etc… just time it right and you’ll do fine

Thief condition cleanse is superior to revenant one, you also got Shadowstep. There’s nothing you can do if you face heavy condition builds.

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Posted by: gannondorf.7628

gannondorf.7628

go to learn from thief who also dont have good condi cleanse but stealth
so learn to engage and disengage fast with shiro and heal through with life steal and fast dmg
use your legendary swap, generosity, staff, malyx etc… just time it right and you’ll do fine

This. It ‘s not really a problem for me, even running the only two legends that can be used properly for now (shiro/glint), you already have defensive abilities that can hold conditions. I mainly a learn to play issue. I never understand why, when you give something to someone, they already want more and more. Revenant’s weakness is condition.

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Posted by: Harvey.7820

Harvey.7820

go to learn from thief who also dont have good condi cleanse but stealth
so learn to engage and disengage fast with shiro and heal through with life steal and fast dmg
use your legendary swap, generosity, staff, malyx etc… just time it right and you’ll do fine

Thieves are often traited to remove condi periodically while in stealth with no additional initiative cost. Also, a revenant isn’t a thief 100%, we have ways to engage the enemy quicky (Phase Traversal) but no ways to disengage as easily as a thief (Shadowsteps).

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Posted by: HolySabre.3254

HolySabre.3254

Its a joke trying to enjoy yourself in pvp with the amount of condi everyone is throwing around. Anet did not think this whole condi weakness through. Forcing a melee player to take a condi stance just to have a chance in pvp is unreasonable