Guild Wars 2

Hello all, just lvled my rev to 80 and im looking for a good pve openworld/fractals/dungeons build.. should i run power (shiro/glint – sw+axe/hammer) or condi (demon/glint mace+axe / sw+shield) which one is optimal for pve after the last patch?

Power. Most of the condi is from torment, which can be good if you can make the enemy move around a lot. Fractal bosses don’t tend to do that so much, nor do world bosses. It’s pretty good though out in silverwastes and in maguuma jungle, so just depends on what and where you are.

I think both builds are quite strong in open world/fractals, but for raiding you’ll have to go condi. (Yes I know you don’t HAVE to go anything to clear raid content, but if you’re power, you are NEVER going to find a group.)

Here are the builds I use:

Condi Open World/Fractals (All Gear Vipers, Berserker Runes, Sigils of Smoldering/Geomancy/Hydromancy):
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQRApX5nn3geNSuQvJRboHlsP0kS4I6SJ4EtrkFUlxO92jPNgCSg9oniC

Power Open World/Fractals (All Gear Bersekers, Scholar Runes, Air/Force Sigils):
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAscmn3guNSuQ7JRboVlsP0rS4IaWJ4EdskFNFqdABoB2FMhNkdMrpNA

For Fractals, swap Hardening Persistence for Radiant Revival and Incensed Response for Equilibrium if there is a PS Warrior or Scepter Condi Ele in your group. Swap Shrio to Jalis if there’s a Chrono in your group (Power Only).

For Raids (Condi), swap Glint for Jalis, Hardening Persistence for Radiant Revival, Incensed Response for Equilibrium, and Herald Traitline for Devastation (1-3-1).

narcx.3570:

I think both builds are quite strong in open world/fractals, but for raiding you’ll have to go condi. (Yes I know you don’t HAVE to go anything to clear raid content, but if you’re power, you are NEVER going to find a group.)

Here are the builds I use:

Condi Open World/Fractals (All Gear Vipers, Berserker Runes, Sigils of Smoldering/Geomancy/Hydromancy):
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQRApX5nn3geNSuQvJRboHlsP0kS4I6SJ4EtrkFUlxO92jPNgCSg9oniC

Power Open World/Fractals (All Gear Bersekers, Scholar Runes, Air/Force Sigils):
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAscmn3guNSuQ7JRboVlsP0rS4IaWJ4EdskFNFqdABoB2FMhNkdMrpNA

For Fractals, swap Hardening Persistence for Radiant Revival and Incensed Response for Equilibrium if there is a PS Warrior or Scepter Condi Ele in your group. Swap Shrio to Jalis if there’s a Chrono in your group (Power Only).

For Raids (Condi), swap Glint for Jalis, Hardening Persistence for Radiant Revival, Incensed Response for Equilibrium, and Herald Traitline for Devastation (1-3-1).

http://qtfy.enjin.com/revenant

Their raid build is a power build.

And while metabattle does have a condi build for it, the power build is rated 20 points higher.

Just FYI.

bearshaman.3421:

http://qtfy.enjin.com/revenant

Their raid build is a power build.

And while metabattle does have a condi build for it, the power build is rated 20 points higher.

Just FYI.

qT benchmarks condi at 4k higher than power…

http://qtfy.eu/benchmarks/

That 4k gap is a lot bigger in actual play too as torment deals additional damage to moving targets and anytime you have to do some boss mechanics your condi’s keep ticking, whereas power’s output drops to zero. (Also, if you’re keeping up Natural Resonance, you won’t be able to spin hammers for the entire Jalis part of the power rotation like they do in the benchmark either.)

But, qT aside…
From personal, I raid a lot experience, I can tell you that nobody is going to take you as power unless you are in a dedicated static group that is specifically building/gearing around you pulsing natural resonance. However, you CAN quite often get into a Wing 2 or 4 group as condi these days.

Also, as for metabattle… They don’t clear their ratings every time there’s a patch and a ton of the “GREAT” votes for the Jalis/Glint power raid spec are most definitely from before the natural resonance nerf took them out of the meta.

narcx.3570:

bearshaman.3421:

http://qtfy.enjin.com/revenant

Their raid build is a power build.

And while metabattle does have a condi build for it, the power build is rated 20 points higher.

Just FYI.

qT benchmarks condi at 4k higher than power…

http://qtfy.eu/benchmarks/

That 4k gap is a lot bigger in actual play too as torment deals additional damage to moving targets and anytime you have to do some boss mechanics your condi’s keep ticking, whereas power’s output drops to zero. (Also, if you’re keeping up Natural Resonance, you won’t be able to spin hammers for the entire Jalis part of the power rotation like they do in the benchmark either.)

But, qT aside…
From personal, I raid a lot experience, I can tell you that nobody is going to take you as power unless you are in a dedicated static group that is specifically building/gearing around you pulsing natural resonance. However, you CAN quite often get into a Wing 2 or 4 group as condi these days.

Also, as for metabattle… They don’t clear their ratings every time there’s a patch and a ton of the “GREAT” votes for the Jalis/Glint power raid spec are most definitely from before the natural resonance nerf took them out of the meta.

Oddly enough, condi didn’t make the list here…

http://qtfy.enjin.com/dps#Ranking

Which is where I was looking. huh…

bearshaman.3421:

narcx.3570:

bearshaman.3421:

http://qtfy.enjin.com/revenant

Their raid build is a power build.

And while metabattle does have a condi build for it, the power build is rated 20 points higher.

Just FYI.

qT benchmarks condi at 4k higher than power…

http://qtfy.eu/benchmarks/

That 4k gap is a lot bigger in actual play too as torment deals additional damage to moving targets and anytime you have to do some boss mechanics your condi’s keep ticking, whereas power’s output drops to zero. (Also, if you’re keeping up Natural Resonance, you won’t be able to spin hammers for the entire Jalis part of the power rotation like they do in the benchmark either.)

But, qT aside…
From personal, I raid a lot experience, I can tell you that nobody is going to take you as power unless you are in a dedicated static group that is specifically building/gearing around you pulsing natural resonance. However, you CAN quite often get into a Wing 2 or 4 group as condi these days.

Also, as for metabattle… They don’t clear their ratings every time there’s a patch and a ton of the “GREAT” votes for the Jalis/Glint power raid spec are most definitely from before the natural resonance nerf took them out of the meta.

Oddly enough, condi didn’t make the list here…

http://qtfy.enjin.com/dps#Ranking

Which is where I was looking. huh…

People do not share the best builds all the time, personally I think the some of the meta is flawed.

bearshaman.3421:

narcx.3570:

bearshaman.3421:

http://qtfy.enjin.com/revenant

Their raid build is a power build.

And while metabattle does have a condi build for it, the power build is rated 20 points higher.

Just FYI.

qT benchmarks condi at 4k higher than power…

http://qtfy.eu/benchmarks/

That 4k gap is a lot bigger in actual play too as torment deals additional damage to moving targets and anytime you have to do some boss mechanics your condi’s keep ticking, whereas power’s output drops to zero. (Also, if you’re keeping up Natural Resonance, you won’t be able to spin hammers for the entire Jalis part of the power rotation like they do in the benchmark either.)

But, qT aside…
From personal, I raid a lot experience, I can tell you that nobody is going to take you as power unless you are in a dedicated static group that is specifically building/gearing around you pulsing natural resonance. However, you CAN quite often get into a Wing 2 or 4 group as condi these days.

Also, as for metabattle… They don’t clear their ratings every time there’s a patch and a ton of the “GREAT” votes for the Jalis/Glint power raid spec are most definitely from before the natural resonance nerf took them out of the meta.

Oddly enough, condi didn’t make the list here…

http://qtfy.enjin.com/dps#Ranking

Which is where I was looking. huh…

That link is significantly out of date there have been several balance patches which have changed the order.