Guild Wars 2

No i am not being overly dramatic

Ventari is still trash, No way you will pick ventari over a druid
Sword nerfed even more, Sword #2 is trash now. Good game
Sword #2 is still bugged as hell
Mallyx is mediocre
Shiro got nerfed
Dward is crap, hammers are a bandaid in raids and bugged as hell anywhere else
Glint F2 is carrying the proff. If there is a 1 trick pony, this is it.

I honestly do not understand how anyone can play rev right now

Huh? Didnt they just make sw 2 5 seconds?

This has to be a joke right…?

mrauls.6519:

Huh? Didnt they just make sw 2 5 seconds?

and reduced the range from 600 to 450

After them minor nerf’s you think it is unplayable? Wow man, this face roll class made thief and warrior pretty imposible to play competitively because how much better rev is, and it is still far better then thief and warrior.

Play 1 of them 2 and see how long it takes for you realize just how easy you still have it (I admit condis are not in your favor)

Fat Disgrace.4275:

After them minor nerf’s you think it is unplayable? Wow man, this face roll class made thief and warrior pretty imposible to play competitively because how much better rev is, and it is still far better then thief and warrior.

Play 1 of them 2 and see how long it takes for you realize just how easy you still have it (I admit condis are not in your favor)

They’ll be even less in our favor after with riposting shadows nerf (a justified nerf). Still Ventari wasn’t buffed enough and given my experience perhaps even a condi cleanse increase might be justified (on Ventari).

Worst? Far from it. Broken in beta status? Yes. Even sword damage on skills is broken and deals less than intended yet no fix, but we got another nerf wohoo..

First they made something that was fine overpowered, there was no reason to touch sword auto nor precision strike but ok.. later on they nerf it bc they kittened up big time. Logic. “We dont want revs to use only autoattack in pve” and in same patch they buff thief auto to ridiculous level that your best bet to dps is autoattack.. Thats gold.

Hunter.4783:

I honestly do not understand how anyone can play rev right now

Coming from a class which has been proved useless in PvP for six months in a row (Guardian/DH) and was literally destroyed yesterday in face of most of the game modes is extremely easy to jump in the Rev wagon, which provides at least two viable builds for high end PvP, performs well at roaming and tramples PvE content as a storm bolter over heretic scum…

Hunter.4783:

No i am not being overly dramatic

Ventari is still trash, No way you will pick ventari over a druid
Sword nerfed even more, Sword #2 is trash now. Good game
Sword #2 is still bugged as hell
Mallyx is mediocre
Shiro got nerfed
Dward is crap, hammers are a bandaid in raids and bugged as hell anywhere else
Glint F2 is carrying the proff. If there is a 1 trick pony, this is it.

I honestly do not understand how anyone can play rev right now

and yet its still TOP 3 class for pvp

If you think Mallyx is mediocre you’re not playing it right. I had quite a bit of success with Mallyx/Shiro last season vs all those necros out there.

Spartacus.3192:

Hunter.4783:

No i am not being overly dramatic

Ventari is still trash, No way you will pick ventari over a druid
Sword nerfed even more, Sword #2 is trash now. Good game
Sword #2 is still bugged as hell
Mallyx is mediocre
Shiro got nerfed
Dward is crap, hammers are a bandaid in raids and bugged as hell anywhere else
Glint F2 is carrying the proff. If there is a 1 trick pony, this is it.

I honestly do not understand how anyone can play rev right now

and yet its still TOP 3 class for pvp

If you think Mallyx is mediocre you’re not playing it right. I had quite a bit of success with Mallyx/Shiro last season vs all those necros out there.

How often do you use Mallyx elite for longer than 3sec?

Burtnik.5218:

Spartacus.3192:

Hunter.4783:

No i am not being overly dramatic

Ventari is still trash, No way you will pick ventari over a druid
Sword nerfed even more, Sword #2 is trash now. Good game
Sword #2 is still bugged as hell
Mallyx is mediocre
Shiro got nerfed
Dward is crap, hammers are a bandaid in raids and bugged as hell anywhere else
Glint F2 is carrying the proff. If there is a 1 trick pony, this is it.

I honestly do not understand how anyone can play rev right now

and yet its still TOP 3 class for pvp

If you think Mallyx is mediocre you’re not playing it right. I had quite a bit of success with Mallyx/Shiro last season vs all those necros out there.

How often do you use Mallyx elite for longer than 3sec?

I don’t. I liked Mallyx for the amazing resistance uptime it gave to me and my team when facing condi classes. I would just use the mallyx elite for the AOE burn trait and then turn it off again. The boon rip and resistance uptime was really good.

Plus since the skill range on power revs is so huge (so many mediocre power revs in lower tiers) i would wreck them 1v1 due to their lack of condi cleanse. Plus the average to poor power rev would spam skills when they had stacks of torment and confusion on them.

Of course it probably doesnt work in higher tiers but since i started seaons 2 late i didnt get that high up to notice.

See? Your Mallyx is nothing but a resistance bot with no elite skill. Mediocre.

Hunter.4783:

No i am not being overly dramatic

Yes, you are being overly dramatic. Like, by a lot.

Is the OP being dramatic? Yes, but that does not mean Revs are in a good spot. Only thing leaving Rev floating is glint, but the damage as power, condi, burst or sustained is okay to mediocre and only one nearly useless ranged weapon.

Since ever Rev felt like an incomplete class, but had pretty powerful damage output. Constant nerfs took away the damage and left it incomplete. It works, but it excels at nothing and is easily substitutable in every game mode.

I’ve had some great fights against revenants in the last 24 hours as a warrior, here is what i have noticed. Revs don’t know how to deal with warriors suddenly having sustain. you guys keep treating us like we will be dead when our two endure pains wear off, and thats just not the case.

You can’t just run in and burst down a warrior in an instant anymore. you have to kite us, you have to run a slightly more tanky build, you have to save your bug burst for the right moment, and don’t waste your freaking awesome evade.

I have beaten most revs i’ve fought since the update, but the revs who know their class and are on the ball give me headaches because they can still out sustain me and they can burst me down quickly. There are WAY better warriors out there than me. ANd there have been one or two revs who seriously ate my face.

Grow up. one nerf patch will not kill your class. it took them several nerfs in a row to kill the warrior, and only took two updates to fix most of our problems. you’ll be on top eventually.

otto.5684:

Is the OP being dramatic? Yes, but that does not mean Revs are in a good spot. Only thing leaving Rev floating is glint, but the damage as power, condi, burst or sustained is okay to mediocre and only one nearly useless ranged weapon.

Since ever Rev felt like an incomplete class, but had pretty powerful damage output. Constant nerfs took away the damage and left it incomplete. It works, but it excels at nothing and is easily substitutable in every game mode.

emkelly.2371:

I’ve had some great fights against revenants in the last 24 hours as a warrior, here is what i have noticed. Revs don’t know how to deal with warriors suddenly having sustain. you guys keep treating us like we will be dead when our two endure pains wear off, and thats just not the case.

You can’t just run in and burst down a warrior in an instant anymore. you have to kite us, you have to run a slightly more tanky build, you have to save your bug burst for the right moment, and don’t waste your freaking awesome evade.

I have beaten most revs i’ve fought since the update, but the revs who know their class and are on the ball give me headaches because they can still out sustain me and they can burst me down quickly. There are WAY better warriors out there than me. ANd there have been one or two revs who seriously ate my face.

Grow up. one nerf patch will not kill your class. it took them several nerfs in a row to kill the warrior, and only took two updates to fix most of our problems. you’ll be on top eventually.

Funnily enough I agree on both.

People still complain about PvP……PvE=/=PvP balance is needed.

I don´t give a kitten about gw2 pvp.

Buran.3796:

Hunter.4783:

I honestly do not understand how anyone can play rev right now

Coming from a class which has been proved useless in PvP for six months in a row (Guardian/DH) and was literally destroyed yesterday in face of most of the game modes is extremely easy to jump in the Rev wagon, which provides at least two viable builds for high end PvP, performs well at roaming and tramples PvE content as a storm bolter over heretic scum…

aye i have also entered do Rev train and i’m not channeling warp entities to aid me in combat
sounds like heresy but rev feels cheese even tho i just barely grasped the controls

You know its funny how people are saying rev is the worst class while guardians are switching over to rev because they feel the same way about guardians im really starting to wonder how biased peoples views are on the classes and not really giving any facts as to whats so bad about the classes.

Ryou.2398:

You know its funny how people are saying rev is the worst class while guardians are switching over to rev because they feel the same way about guardians im really starting to wonder how biased peoples views are on the classes and not really giving any facts as to whats so bad about the classes.

Yup just like how necros are crying rivers of tears because they are not faceroll anymore.

Im an ex guardian and rev is still head, shoulders, legs and feet above where guardian is right now.

….like…are we even playing the same game or simply people are out of touch with reality?
If you really think rev is bad……gl you’ll need it

Rev is fine. There’s a bunch of small problems, like underwater, bad traits, bugged skills and such. But the only big problem right now is the lack of diversity.

If you’re running the meta builds (power Shiro/Glint, frontline Mallyx in WvW) you’re not only fine but you’re pretty good. Now, if you try to run something else you’re crap. If you try to run baseline revenant then, wow, you’re totally crap. The fact that we have so few weapons and they’re all way too one dimensional, and our utilities are tied to the legends make this lack of diversity to be even worse.

lmperdigao.2567

baseline revenant then, wow, you’re totally crap.

Thats my problem with these patches. Instead of providing diversity, they force rev in herald even more than before. All of the patches so far hurt way more core rev than herald.

1 was resistance trait – 5cd. I was guessing it was a hotfix to tone down a bit revs till rework but nope. Its something that will probably stay for good.

2 was stability on dodge – core stab on dodge received 5cd, like wtf? Main problem is herald trait and they nerf core? Logic.

3 shiro riposte shadow nerf – while not much of a problem for herald, it breaks core rev even futher to unplayable levels

These 3 nerfs killed my core shiro/mallyx as i was relying hard on dodges to survive at all.

My main gripe is sword now and shiro heal however. Sword is broken. Damage spreads out drastically reducing it single target damage for whatever reason or logic. It is not how weapons in gw2 works. I dont deal 75% less damage on hb to my target just cause i am hitting 3 targets at once neither on lava font or literally any ability in this game. Why sword behave in such way then?

And ED.. i dont have to explain that one. A kitten heal was nerfed futher without any compensation. It making it even harder to trade damage with people now.

I really at this point want a new legend which would provide me mobility with normal heal and a new dps weapon that wont lose it damage just bc im not fighting 1v1. I would trash Shiro and swords right away and never pick them up again. I doubt core rev will ever be viable and based on their patch notes they dont intend to tone down elite specs at all. The buffs to Ventari are a joke as well.

which class isn’t forced to elite spec

Rev still completely replaces thief in the meta. A thief (that has decent skill) should be able to kill a rev no problem, and while even though this is true thief isn’t as good as rev, here’s why. The reason Rev exists above thief in the meta is because it takes thief’s job and gives it to a class that requires less practice/skill to pick up, (imho). With that said, Rev also has way better team fight potential due to it’s better sustain than thief, making it more valuable/versatile than just for decapping and +1. Rev’s also make very good duelists, so rev’s have the ability to decap a point that has a single hostile player on it, while most of the time thieves can’t. (unless your a kittening hot kitten thief, and even then thief will likely lose fights to certain classes)

I agree its a terrible class, really buggy and well after reaching 80 very forgettable to the point i might even delete the character when i need an extra slot…

Feel like i wasted many hours on this buggy class tbh.

Even if people say Thief is worse, i don’t see it, still more fun to play.

lighter.2708:

which class isn’t forced to elite spec

Ranger
Warrior
Ele
Mesmer

Dante.1508:

lighter.2708:

which class isn’t forced to elite spec

Ranger
Warrior
Ele
Mesmer

This! Yes! I agree, yet I’ll do Chronomancer, cause it seems fun. Druid, Berserker and Tempest are completely optional for me. Herald, Reaper, Daredevil, Dragon Hunter and Scrapper are imo must have. These specs really add up to the basic classes. Nice melee weapon for Engineer and Necromancer, good ranged for Guardian, Herald is unfortunately the best legend and third endurance bar for Thief is must have.

Back to the topic. Revenant is not the worst, but it lack diversity. I see no point in switching from Herald to anything, but at the same time, Herald lacks condition removal and break stun skills. But other legends are not much better. Dwarf has the best healing skill, but pretty much useless utilities. Shiro is not for me, but has break stun. Mallyx is second after Herald, but I don’t want condi build. Ventari, pff, please. Why can’t we pick our favourite utilities/healing/elite and create our own skill bar? Like on the other classes. Revenant is imo not the best idea, Anet. Sorry, it’s just not.

Cecylio.1286:

Why can’t we pick our favourite utilities/healing/elite and create our own skill bar? Like on the other classes. Revenant is imo not the best idea, Anet. Sorry, it’s just not.

I see that you are attempting to fit a square peg into a round hole.

Dante.1508:

lighter.2708:

which class isn’t forced to elite spec

Ranger
Mesmer

What

Dante.1508:

I agree its a terrible class, really buggy and well after reaching 80 very forgettable to the point i might even delete the character when i need an extra slot…

Feel like i wasted many hours on this buggy class tbh.

Even if people say Thief is worse, i don’t see it, still more fun to play.

lighter.2708:

which class isn’t forced to elite spec

Ranger
Warrior
Ele
Mesmer

If your talking PvE, okay, I will agree with you, somewhat. However, if you are speaking PvP or WvW, no way is a core ranger on par with a druid spec. Bar None. The closest thing a core ranger build can get to being effective is a trap/condi ranger, and even then druid beats that build too. And that build is useless in PvP/Wvw anyway.

As for Ele, I use to think that to for a staff ele. There’s one staff build that is better core than tempest, and thats more of a pve/raid build. You bring that build into pvp or Wvw and you’ll get wiped all over the place..

I don’t play my mez or warrior enough to comment on those two though

mulzi.8273:

If your talking PvE, okay, I will agree with you, somewhat. However, if you are speaking PvP or WvW, no way is a core ranger on par with a druid spec. Bar None. The closest thing a core ranger build can get to being effective is a trap/condi ranger, and even then druid beats that build too. And that build is useless in PvP/Wvw anyway.

As for Ele, I use to think that to for a staff ele. There’s one staff build that is better core than tempest, and thats more of a pve/raid build. You bring that build into pvp or Wvw and you’ll get wiped all over the place..

I don’t play my mez or warrior enough to comment on those two though

Funny you assume hes talking about PvE, I read that list and assumed he must be talking about PvP. Druid, tempest and chrono are definitely BiS in PvE, only burnzerker is out.

I am totally bored playing my rev now in PVE (I do not play him in pvp and I have multiples of each class). I am doing the meta build, the meta rotation in order to try to maximize my dps. The build and rotation is solid. But the rotation comes down to using 2 attacks (sword 1 & 2), popping your utilities and stance dancing. That’s it. 2 attacks, one of which is the auto attack, which anet wanted players to get away from. Axe 5 when cc is needed. Hammer is neutered. Healing is a joke. Rev effectively has no viable ranged attack. In pvp the class may be something to be reckoned with but for pve its just a buff bot. Sadly, anet has gone to the model of having no difference between pvp skills and pve skills and pvp rules.
So, while I won’t say Rev is the “worst” class, I do believe it has gone downhill since its inception. Hopefully, in time, I will get excited when playing the class again. Meanwhile, I cannot promote people rolling the class for pve other than to provide buffs.