Revenant PVE leveling
as if dungeons were hard and can’t be facerolled atm.
Tomes will work as they should – there is literally NO reason to Block them on Revs as you learn nearly nothing by leveling as a veteran
sorry but this is nothing more than a restrictive suggestion that has no benefit at all
Lol why do you want to force people to level this way. There are so many people out there with multiple stacks of this tomes so just let them use them usefully, finally.
Who cares? You don’t have to pick up a revenant if you dont want to.
Even on level 80 there are so many people that don’t know how to play their class! There are people out there on fractal level 50, which don’t even know the mechanics of bosses properly and/or how to use their skills to counter them!
Only from leveling in PvE you don’t know how to play your revenant in a dungeon.
You can completly solo rush your leveling in PvE by map completion and story which requires completly other builds than a dungeon does.
Only if they dungeons they will know how to play the revenant there. Player skill and dungeon expirence makes this of course much easier. Same for PvP and WvW. Or do you want that Revenants can’t join unranked/ranked matches before they played X custom arenas? Would be annoying as hell.
That’s a very odd suggestion to make.
The player levels the way they wish to level. If you don’t want to play with them in a dungeon then don’t.
But even right now if you join a dungeon for all you know is a fresh level 80 warrior who made the account 2 hours ago
I disagree with this request.
For most veteran players we have tomes sitting in our bank basically on tap to max level our next toon so I would find it very unfair to not be able to use them.
Realistically though, there’s no difference in leveling a Rev to 80 than leveling any other toon you don’t already have to 80 as well. In both situations you’d be playing with a character that you don’t have any experience with.
For those of us that are in the Beta, we are arguably already familiar with the class mechanics (as they come out and get fine-tuned) so we’ve already overcome the learning curve of having started a new class.
I completely disagree with doing the OP’s request. Let me also point out that more than likely the ones that have a pile of tomes enough to make a fully leveled 80 Revy will be vets to the game to begin with. They will already know what the basic mechanics of game play are and will know how to adjust their freshly made level 80 Revy to it. To take away tomes would be completely pointless.
“Be like water” – Bruce Lee
So you want to restrict the way every person playing Revenant is forced to play so that your dungeon runs can go smoother?
As others have already said, veteran players that already know game mechanics will learn almost nothing from leveling because for most classes, the build you use in dungeons and the build you use while leveling are very different. I can definitely say leveling my engineer did not serve as practice for dungeons, especially when I’m using Rocket Boots and only using EGun for movement. If camping flamethrower your entire life was meta in dungeons, I guess it might have prepared me.
You’re essentially asking to disable a feature for people picking up Rev and hinder their progress just to make your life simpler.
I also completely disagree with the sentiment of disabling Instant-20 items and Tomes of knowledge for the Revenant.
These kinds of items being widely available (I’ve made over 100+ odd Tomes since they announced HOT and we’re still months off from release) how people level or how fast they level is irrelevant and player to player.
In addition this there is already a number of ways to speed level a character. For example early on at the release of the game people power leveled each other to cap by using crafting. You gain roughly 10 levels per profession at 400. It is still very much possible to throw money at this problem and level up entirely via professions as well by simply stock piling resources as well. There is also dungeons and swapping in lower level alts after clearing with an 80 as well as others.
The common complaint against allowing level 80 Revenants on day 1 is that the players will be inexperienced with the class and bring down events/groups/etc. However I also find the logic in this shakey as there will also be a large number of other people playing specializations they aren’t fully experienced with and also potentially just as clunky with.
In the end what does it matter to you or anyone else how fast I decide to level?
Kodiak X – Blackgate
Other than what has been stated several times here, most people playing day 1 of HoT’s release will also have played the BWEs which means said players will know enough about the class that it should be fine in dungeons and fractals. Heck there were players during those events running dungeons and fractals and other than sword being weak and not having great running skills, I wasn’t holding back the group one bit in the dungeon I ran.
The point is, learning a new class can take a very short amount of time. By the time the end of the beta rolled around I knew how to run the revenant better than some of the other classes I had been level simply because I put the time into learning the class where as with the guardian or thief, I just don’t care about and I have an 80 thief. Being level 80 in this game isn’t something that says “I’m great at this class because I reached level cap.” Lvling is so easy it’s not even funny even through just map completing. I could gain 10 levels every two hours with an exp boost on and 10 levels every three to four hours without one and that was with just with having fun and not grinding the levels.
As it’s been said, you don’t always use the same spec in the open world as you do in dungeons. While I do sometimes, I change out things like the heal or elite because I don’t care for them while I leveled the engi. For example: I really like the gadget heal over the turret with the added stun and then running the turret supply drop elite for both the heal and the turrets or elixir-x to be a rampaging monster, but in fractals I run the full set up of the meta build (until Mai, yeah, then I switch around everything). There is also the fact I dislike the grenades with a passion. But am I a bad engi? No. The same goes with Warrior, ranger, mesmer, and necro the other classes I move between (I don’t main a class or didn’t until rev was revealed). Do I know them as well as people who main them? No and I will never claim I do. The point is this game is made to play the way players feel. Will a group get mad at you for not running the meta build? Well, how the heck do they know you’re not running the meta build?
I do see why you don’t want it to be run. But as someone who has one of each class and a few doubles for key farming, I can tell you have have an overload of the level 20 scrolls alone and it would be nice to use them. I don’t on the tomes because I do use them for key farming. Even still encase we don’t get early access to the revenant I am stockpiling the the tomes now as well as keeping at least one scroll on standby. Why? Because I am going to main the revenant. If I insta him to 60-80 I can run through the personal story and season 2 over a weekend and then head into HoT on that toon.
Saying we can use those tomes and scrolls is like saying “You can’t use that total make over kit you just bought” to someone.
Again, leveling is a joke in this game. While I do want early access to the game to level more slowly, lvling takes less than a few days if you grind it out. I got my engi from 40-65 in a day and a half using only exp boosts then used crafting for 5 lvls and tomes for the last ten just because I was sick of the grind at that point (granted trying to do all of that in two days nonstop could be what got to me). So why restrict tomes when that’s not even the problem?