Guild Wars 2

The high energy cost +cool downs means you are just penalising your self twice while other classes only have one or the other.

And still no fix to ascended swords that deal normal swords damage (which proves they only care about pvp balance).

Oh c’mon. I main Rev, the CD’s are low, energy costs are managed through one of the Revenant’s main mechanics – Energy Management. Yes, guess you forgot about that one.
I’ll admit some of the energy costs on some skills are quite high, but still, manageable. You’re talking like you don’t even know what the Revenant is about.
Just posting one sentence and expecting anyone to understand what you’re on about just shows how you know nothing.

You seem like you just wanna spam your way to victory. Revs could use some changes, but they’re still very viable in large scale WvW, just L2P, and quit whining, “useless” lol.

Sad OP.

I think the nerf to Phase Traversal was over the top. I can agree to an increase in energy, but not by that much.

People have to understand that shiro is the only mobility rev has, and by making Phase Traversal virtually flunk 1/3 of their energy bar on top of a cd to close a gap, revenants are paying in DAMAGE/DEFENSE as an opportunity cost compared to a thief or warrior who have similar low cooldown mobility that doesn’t cost them damage.

I’m just not sure how they can justify daredevil with 3 dashes, massive endurance regen, massive DPS, and pretty much unrivaled movement and stealth spam while nerfing rev because it’s the one class that can punish thieves in their own game.

If there’s something WvW needs less of, it’s thieves.

Mesmers and tempests you can disengage and outrun, there is no outrunning a thief or warrior.

WvW – CoR and boon bot
Raids – Boonbot, mostly for F2
Spvp – Im honestly not sure whats his role atm other than feeders to condi builds as his potential to +1 got dramatically decreased .

Tons of unviable and bugged stuff. Whatever we wont try to do, other class can do better. Revenant seems to be in a “good” spot now where Shiro, the legendary assassin is a joke in comprasion to some dude who calls himself a thief.

Jalis, legendary warrior who is as dangerous as 3yr old kid.
Mallyx, the demon that punishment you hard and feasted on conditions is countered by one boonstrip from a puny necro.
Glint, one of the most powerful beings except Elder Dragons which is countered by not attacking during healing skill.

And then we have pearls like sword mh that drastically loses damage as more than one target show up while still aiming for pets, clones, houses, gates and even stuff not visible on map at all, its like trying to say “hey rev, i hear youre kittened”

And revenant mechanic is the best part about him. “Energy management” which is all about autoattacking stuff to death. No ways to gain energy or to actually feel like we managing it, just autoatk, when you run out of energy swap. I start to wonder whats the point of the 100 energy cap when youll never reach it anywhere. Its just drain&swap. Energy management my kitten.

Zenith.7301:

I think the nerf to Phase Traversal was over the top. I can agree to an increase in energy, but not by that much.

People have to understand that shiro is the only mobility rev has, and by making Phase Traversal virtually flunk 1/3 of their energy bar on top of a cd to close a gap, revenants are paying in DAMAGE/DEFENSE as an opportunity cost compared to a thief or warrior who have similar low cooldown mobility that doesn’t cost them damage.

I’m just not sure how they can justify daredevil with 3 dashes, massive endurance regen, massive DPS, and pretty much unrivaled movement and stealth spam while nerfing rev because it’s the one class that can punish thieves in their own game.

If there’s something WvW needs less of, it’s thieves.

Mesmers and tempests you can disengage and outrun, there is no outrunning a thief or warrior.

lol, i will be playing zerk basilisk venom thief. sick and tired of fighting with a kitten sword. wont ever be using rev in wvw again.

Burtnik.5218:

WvW – CoR and boon bot
Raids – Boonbot, mostly for F2
Spvp – Im honestly not sure whats his role atm other than feeders to condi builds as his potential to +1 got dramatically decreased .

Tons of unviable and bugged stuff. Whatever we wont try to do, other class can do better. Revenant seems to be in a “good” spot now where Shiro, the legendary assassin is a joke in comprasion to some dude who calls himself a thief.

Jalis, legendary warrior who is as dangerous as 3yr old kid.
Mallyx, the demon that punishment you hard and feasted on conditions is countered by one boonstrip from a puny necro.
Glint, one of the most powerful beings except Elder Dragons which is countered by not attacking during healing skill.

And then we have pearls like sword mh that drastically loses damage as more than one target show up while still aiming for pets, clones, houses, gates and even stuff not visible on map at all, its like trying to say “hey rev, i hear youre kittened”

And revenant mechanic is the best part about him. “Energy management” which is all about autoattacking stuff to death. No ways to gain energy or to actually feel like we managing it, just autoatk, when you run out of energy swap. I start to wonder whats the point of the 100 energy cap when youll never reach it anywhere. Its just drain&swap. Energy management my kitten.

exactly, there is no management, you use one skill that eats all you energy and you are left vulnerable+ you now have a cool down on your skill. you are better of just playing a thief.

Revenants are perfectly fine and still do thier job in spades.

Let’s cut the over the top drama and enjoy our revs

Thanks

EragamerLG.2390:

Oh c’mon. I main Rev, the CD’s are low, energy costs are managed through one of the Revenant’s main mechanics – Energy Management. Yes, guess you forgot about that one.
I’ll admit some of the energy costs on some skills are quite high, but still, manageable. You’re talking like you don’t even know what the Revenant is about.
Just posting one sentence and expecting anyone to understand what you’re on about just shows how you know nothing.

You seem like you just wanna spam your way to victory. Revs could use some changes, but they’re still very viable in large scale WvW, just L2P, and quit whining, “useless” lol.

Sad OP.

I disagree with this. I think the energy costs are becoming unmanageable. You act as if Revs start out with 100 energy on top. If that was the case, then, yes, I’d agree with you, but as is, most of the time in WvW, I rarely have more than 50 energy. In fact, most of the time when I do use Shiro, it’s my secondary and I’ve just switched over to him. If you have to use PT, there’s 35 of that energy right there.

As I said before, if there’s going to be energy management, especially with increasingly higher costs, there needs to be no cooldowns at all.

Azukas.1426:

Revenants are perfectly fine and still do thier job in spades.

Let’s cut the over the top drama and enjoy our revs

Thanks

And what job is that in your opinion?

‘Useless’ is a bit over the top. Glint and F2 still makes Herald very useful to have in the group for boon sharing. A well aimed CoR into the enemy zerg does huge damage , often nearly one shotting squishy backliners.

meloz.4896:

‘Useless’ is a bit over the top. Glint and F2 still makes Herald very useful to have in the group for boon sharing. A well aimed CoR into the enemy zerg does huge damage , often nearly one shotting squishy backliners.

You have to go nearly full zerk gear to hit damage with hammer 2 and that leaves you open to zerk thiefs. The time it take to land one COR I could lay down 2-3 wells with a necro which does more than damage. And lets not forget COR only works on flat surface so it’s a nerfed skill fresh out of the oven

Lonewolf Kai.3682:

EragamerLG.2390:

Oh c’mon. I main Rev, the CD’s are low, energy costs are managed through one of the Revenant’s main mechanics – Energy Management. Yes, guess you forgot about that one.
I’ll admit some of the energy costs on some skills are quite high, but still, manageable. You’re talking like you don’t even know what the Revenant is about.
Just posting one sentence and expecting anyone to understand what you’re on about just shows how you know nothing.

You seem like you just wanna spam your way to victory. Revs could use some changes, but they’re still very viable in large scale WvW, just L2P, and quit whining, “useless” lol.

Sad OP.

I disagree with this. I think the energy costs are becoming unmanageable. You act as if Revs start out with 100 energy on top. If that was the case, then, yes, I’d agree with you, but as is, most of the time in WvW, I rarely have more than 50 energy. In fact, most of the time when I do use Shiro, it’s my secondary and I’ve just switched over to him. If you have to use PT, there’s 35 of that energy right there.

As I said before, if there’s going to be energy management, especially with increasingly higher costs, there needs to be no cooldowns at all.

I’ll agree with you there are reiterate on what I meant. The CD + Energy idea is manageable(we’ve had it for the past 7-8 months), but I agree that lately, the energy increases are becoming too much. I also find myself quickly running out of energy. My point was that the concept of both CDs and Energy IS manageable, if balanced, and at HoT’s launch it wasn’t so bad, as the PvP seasons progressed though, that’s where things started changing.

Something I also don’t understand, and would appreciate any pointers on, is how we’re supposed to chase a warrior, for instance. Before, I could use PT twice(with the CD, which made it slow but oh well), and sometimes they still ran away, but now it just seems impossible. IO doesn’t do too much with 15 energy left(the initial cut is like 7-10 energy too, which leaves 5 energy to use on actual IO).

I start to wonder if it wouldnt be better to close rev mechanic to thief, gain alternative methods of energy and remove energy gain from swap itself (along with cd) so we can truly adjust to x situation. We could start with 100 energy at this point as well and then we could talk about energy management. Right now whatever i wont on Shiro im nearly out of energy. Shiro first legend with 4 “elites”.