Guild Wars 2

Heyo,

after some time playing sPvP, i switched to the Revenant because micromanaging a lot of skills is really fun for me.
Since i’m pretty new to this game (i mean, i got ~150unranked games played) i still can’t grasp the concept of some classes or better: i don’t know what to do against them.

I’m playing the standard power-shiro with stability on dodgeroll. While the more condi-resistant traitline would probably result in a much better match-up, i feel like i shouldn’t take it because it hurts my other match-ups way more. Am i right about that?

While “normal” match-ups seem pretty straight forward to me, e.g. a power d/p daredevil, the d/d-Condidaredevil match-up feels so weird.
I played 2 or 3 games against a thief of this kind. And while i have to admit that this guy is probably a far superior player, i’m also overwhelmed by his possibillities to dodge EVERYTHING. Granted the fights didn’t last very long, because i just dropped after 15-20seconds, i really need some hints how to fight this kind of “cheesy” stuff.

Here are my problems:
The constant dodging (i think from normal daredevil-dodges, plus dagger 4(?), plus some stuff to regenerate dodgerolls i would guess) and the damage that comes with them (mostly conditions) just wrecks me over time. I also don’t know what “signature”-spells to dodge, everything kind of looks the same and i don’t really know the mechanic of every flashy jumps these guys can do.
Additionally, i don’t know when to hit them. And with which skill. Sword 2 just “felt” right, it’s nearly instant, but 90% of the time, i shot it in some dodgestuff. Sword 3 felt good, because even if it’s highly telegraphed, i atleast got no damage on me (additional thing: do condis still do damage to me then?)
All staff skills felt not that great. While Staff 3 maybe prolonged my death a little, staff 5 felt completely unhitable.
This matchup really frustrated me. I guess because i really don’t know what i can improve (i know there’s a lot, i just don’t really know what to improve :/ )

So if anyone has some advice for me, i would greatly appreciate it.
Sorry for mucho bad englando and thanks in advance!

digggaa.6895:

Heyo,

after some time playing sPvP, i switched to the Revenant because micromanaging a lot of skills is really fun for me.
Since i’m pretty new to this game (i mean, i got ~150unranked games played) i still can’t grasp the concept of some classes or better: i don’t know what to do against them.

I’m playing the standard power-shiro with stability on dodgeroll. While the more condi-resistant traitline would probably result in a much better match-up, i feel like i shouldn’t take it because it hurts my other match-ups way more. Am i right about that?

While “normal” match-ups seem pretty straight forward to me, e.g. a power d/p daredevil, the d/d-Condidaredevil match-up feels so weird.
I played 2 or 3 games against a thief of this kind. And while i have to admit that this guy is probably a far superior player, i’m also overwhelmed by his possibillities to dodge EVERYTHING. Granted the fights didn’t last very long, because i just dropped after 15-20seconds, i really need some hints how to fight this kind of “cheesy” stuff.

Here are my problems:
The constant dodging (i think from normal daredevil-dodges, plus dagger 4(?), plus some stuff to regenerate dodgerolls i would guess) and the damage that comes with them (mostly conditions) just wrecks me over time. I also don’t know what “signature”-spells to dodge, everything kind of looks the same and i don’t really know the mechanic of every flashy jumps these guys can do.
Additionally, i don’t know when to hit them. And with which skill. Sword 2 just “felt” right, it’s nearly instant, but 90% of the time, i shot it in some dodgestuff. Sword 3 felt good, because even if it’s highly telegraphed, i atleast got no damage on me (additional thing: do condis still do damage to me then?)
All staff skills felt not that great. While Staff 3 maybe prolonged my death a little, staff 5 felt completely unhitable.
This matchup really frustrated me. I guess because i really don’t know what i can improve (i know there’s a lot, i just don’t really know what to improve :/ )

So if anyone has some advice for me, i would greatly appreciate it.
Sorry for mucho bad englando and thanks in advance!

You always have the choice to not fight them in the first place.
Not sure if there is anything special to do since they are rare.
Fight them only with a tempest around.

I Main one of these D/D, currently there isn’t much you can do as a Rev 1v1, they are able to dodge everything you throw at them, if they just spam all of their Dodges/Initiative away you can win majority do just that, the smart ones will pace their ini/dodges using the poison procs from Dagger auto to Keep up the pressure while saving dodges and DB for you main attacks. Locking them down is the only way to kill effectively quite a few don’t run stun breaks.

You can kill it as condi revenant.
Mace/axe sword/shield with mal/shiro or herald legend.
Try condi rev, and you’ll see that revenants are much more superior then most ppl think.

Rizo.9534:

You can kill it as condi revenant.
Mace/axe sword/shield with mal/shiro or herald legend.
Try condi rev, and you’ll see that revenants are much more superior then most ppl think.

Yup…Thats what i do against condi heavy enemy teams. Condi Rev is actually quite decent in SoloQ. Power Rev is better if you get lucky and have decent support in your team.

The torment/confusion spam from condi rev is great against all the button mashing that the dodge spamming/Dagger 3 spamming those thieves do.

Rizo.9534:

You can kill it as condi revenant.
Mace/axe sword/shield with mal/shiro or herald legend.
Try condi rev, and you’ll see that revenants are much more superior then most ppl think.

I never tried malyx/herald yet. How does it perform compared to malyx/shiro?

Sabtah.1704:

Rizo.9534:

You can kill it as condi revenant.
Mace/axe sword/shield with mal/shiro or herald legend.
Try condi rev, and you’ll see that revenants are much more superior then most ppl think.

I never tried malyx/herald yet. How does it perform compared to malyx/shiro?

No Not Mallyx/Herald. I mean Mallyx/Shiro.

The gameplay is very different. Not so much burst since its true hybrid. At the end of each match I’ve usually done 50% power damage and 50% condi damage.

I’ve never lost a 1v1 vs a power rev so far. And it does much better vs necro and mesmers than a power rev does.

Like i said before a power rev is much better if you have good elementalist in your team.

You need to make sure you take retribution line for the stability on dodge since CC will kill you especially in Mallyx stance.

Good Mesmers are still the toughest matchup for me. But since they are the best 1v1 class at the moment its no surprise.

Lastly you don’t have as much sustain as a power rev does but since you take virtually no condi damage it doesn’t feel that bad.