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Posted by: Akamaru.7415

Akamaru.7415

(Confirmed so far is ooc legend swap will get a cooldown, so no more energy refresh,
And a swiftness stack will be coming)

Originally I suggested phase traversal have a targeter, or it could work like riposting shadows and the same energy cost but forwards.
Phase traversal gives another shadowstep to a kit that already has shadowsteps and super speed to catch up. A leap or jump ooc is really needed.

Whilst this is nearly intended, ironically we start in the silverwastes which is partly about moving between objectives. By the time u waddle your way over there with the swiftness skill that we will be getting (when it’s ready) your team would have already finished. WvW will be interesting.

Necromancers are the only other useless class but this is deliberate as they are supposed to trap everyone and try to be unkillable. Revenant doesn’t have this concept, and it seems weird that a class with the power to shadow step repeatedly has to walk around Tyria like a Necro and can’t channel a legend like Shiro to allow them to move more quickly.

Are you ok with no mobility, found a work around, or have alternatives?
Maybe phase smash could not teleport back?

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Posted by: WindGodGirl.6405

WindGodGirl.6405

I’m pretty okay with Impossible Odds turning me into Sonic the Hedgehog.

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Posted by: Sagat.3285

Sagat.3285

Such harsh words about necro…

“Revenant is actual proof that devs read the necromancer forum” – Pelopidas.2140
The Dhuumfire thread

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

ooc mobility atm is fine. Don’t know about the future.

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Posted by: Sunflowers.1729

Sunflowers.1729

Use Riposting Shadows (Shiro utility skill 1) as a ‘leap’ since it has no cooldown. Granted you have to do the fancy reverse keybinding trick but apart from that you can move around pretty quickly.

Staff 5 is also a dash, although obviously that requires you to use staff.

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Posted by: Akamaru.7415

Akamaru.7415

Such harsh words about necro…

I know, they are my favourite class for aesthetics believe it or not.

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Posted by: Akamaru.7415

Akamaru.7415

I’m pretty okay with Impossible Odds turning me into Sonic the Hedgehog.

This will be replaced with a swiftness stack that Roy has confirmed. Bare in mind that super speed is just swiftness ooc.

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Posted by: Sylent.3165

Sylent.3165

Use Riposting Shadows (Shiro utility skill 1) as a ‘leap’ since it has no cooldown. Granted you have to do the fancy reverse keybinding trick but apart from that you can move around pretty quickly.

Staff 5 is also a dash, although obviously that requires you to use staff.

Right, it’s a 1200 dash to target. That’s massive.bind to e key and your all set for a dash.

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Posted by: Krysard.1364

Krysard.1364

Actually you can get perma Super Speed by switching heroes ooc and gaining 50 energy, then using the SS Shiro skill

M I L K B O I S

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Posted by: Akamaru.7415

Akamaru.7415

Actually you can get perma Super Speed by switching heroes ooc and gaining 50 energy, then using the SS Shiro skill

my first sentence is that Roy confirms this will be removed and a swiftness stack will be coming

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Posted by: Akamaru.7415

Akamaru.7415

Use Riposting Shadows (Shiro utility skill 1) as a ‘leap’ since it has no cooldown. Granted you have to do the fancy reverse keybinding trick but apart from that you can move around pretty quickly.

Staff 5 is also a dash, although obviously that requires you to use staff.

Right, it’s a 1200 dash to target. That’s massive.bind to e key and your all set for a dash.

I’m talking about moving from A to B, so ooc (out of combat) e.g. WvW, if you have a target then there is no problem as there are many shadowsteps

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Posted by: Sunflowers.1729

Sunflowers.1729

Use Riposting Shadows (Shiro utility skill 1) as a ‘leap’ since it has no cooldown. Granted you have to do the fancy reverse keybinding trick but apart from that you can move around pretty quickly.

Staff 5 is also a dash, although obviously that requires you to use staff.

Right, it’s a 1200 dash to target. That’s massive.bind to e key and your all set for a dash.

I’m talking about moving from A to B, so ooc (out of combat) e.g. WvW, if you have a target then there is no problem as there are many shadowsteps

I meant utility skill 1, which is the backward dodge. Much like Withdraw on Thief, you can use certain keybindings to turn your character instantaneously and roll forwards.

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Posted by: Ohoni.6057

Ohoni.6057

They do fine in combat, with lots of “move to target” options (my Shiro/Sword/Axe had four and a backflip), but they are very lacking in out of combat travel capabilities. I definitely think that the GW2 devs greatly underestimate the need to have out fo combat mobility, probably because they balance everything with only sPvP in mind, and see it as a virtue that some classes have a tough time getting around in that context.

“If you spent as much time working on [some task] as
you spend complaining about it on the forums, you’d be
done by now.”

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Posted by: Kaiden Valor.7163

Kaiden Valor.7163

The way Impossible Odds currently works seems fine for OOC movement to me. Even without swapping legend to get instant 50 energy, the time it takes to regen isn’t bad at all.

As far as I recall reading, Roy only said that the legend cooldown would be added, but the skill will remain the same? (if he has said more than that could someone point me to it).

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Posted by: Kidel.2057

Kidel.2057

He also said we are getting another direct source of swiftness, so it will be fine

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Posted by: Akamaru.7415

Akamaru.7415

you can use certain keybindings to turn your character instantaneously and roll forwards.

I don’t think that works anymore. I have been struggling to get that ‘about face’ working on my mesmer recently. It turns the camera round but your character won’t turn, even with “w”.

I did know about this, in my original post I said it would mean our revenants will funnily be travelling through Tyria backwards. That post is out of date now though and this one is abit cluttered too.

I think the conclusion seems to be that revenants will be the second class that won’t be getting any map mobility. Unless Glint brings a blink, which is unlikely.

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Posted by: Sunflowers.1729

Sunflowers.1729

you can use certain keybindings to turn your character instantaneously and roll forwards.

I don’t think that works anymore. I have been struggling to get that ‘about face’ working on my mesmer recently. It turns the camera round but your character won’t turn, even with “w”.

I did know about this, in my original post I said it would mean our revenants will funnily be travelling through Tyria backwards. That post is out of date now though and this one is abit cluttered too.

I think the conclusion seems to be that revenants will be the second class that won’t be getting any map mobility. Unless Glint brings a blink, which is unlikely.

No you can still do it, I repeatedly used the dodge skill to travel forwards earlier today. You need to key bind both “Free Camera” and “About Face”, then press and hold the first one, then about face, then press the skill. Release Free Camera after.

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Posted by: fluidmonolith.3584

fluidmonolith.3584

With a small amount of boon duration and the Demonic Defiance trait, Mallyx skill Unyielding Anguish is an OOC mobility skill – leap with 600 range (the boon duration means the resistance you get will last longer than the self-cripple – or alternatively, -condi duration effects might work too). But with the short aftercast it’s only very slightly faster than running with swiftness.

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