Guild Wars 2

So…envoy of exuberance. The effect is barely noticeable and seems to be a waste of energy. And crystal hibernation roots you whereas chronomancer’s block is mobile. You would think and elite weapon would be decent.

Gotta love when people compare individual abilities across classes without taking anything else into consideration…

When will people learn that comparing skills in a vacuum is useless?

Shield 5 in practice just isn’t useful. Might be good for wvw you say? Nope. It’s a suicide button at best because of the root. The only use i’ve found for it so far is pve boss fights and even that is debatable.

The thing is all this time we’ve been taught stay out of the red circles. Coming from thief it feels incredibly unintuitive to just stand still for 3 seconds while i could just have dodged out of the way, so just end up dodging and not using it.

Yep, just dodge rather than take the hits. Its not as if this game expects for there to be a tank that just sits there or anything. Unless I am missing something, this offhand seems underwhelming.

Shield is useless. A 6k heal when we have 16k if playing full zerker. That’s almost half a bar and we can do it every 25 seconds. On top of blocking all damage. We must have different standards.

Does the Chrono block also heal for 4k HP?

Kanto.1659:

Shield is useless. A 6k heal when we have 16k if playing full zerker. That’s almost half a bar and we can do it every 25 seconds. On top of blocking all damage. We must have different standards.

Does the Chrono block also heal for 4k HP?

Haha, this. I don’t even think we are playing the same game. Shield is amazing.

Shield is a great off hand and scales really well with HP.

Kanto.1659:

Shield is useless. A 6k heal when we have 16k if playing full zerker. That’s almost half a bar and we can do it every 25 seconds. On top of blocking all damage. We must have different standards.

Does the Chrono block also heal for 4k HP?

With the grandmaster trait, sword 3, and glint heal (dmg to hp), Revs have super high damage negation uptime and OP is complaining about the shield..

Shield 4 is abit lackluster I agree (reminds me of Guardian’s old shield 4 which get buffed),but Shield 5 is VERY NICE.

The 4k AOE heal WITHOUT investment in healing is very good, and justify the rooting feature because the healing amount is just excessive.

However, I do agree shield 4 need a huge buff. Maybe add a cleansing 2 conditions on self and allies that it passes through?

lol shield is good bro, idk what youre talking about

As a condi, I run in, drop fields every where… and then sit in my bubble while the world burns around me. I LOVE my shield.

Aomine.5012:

Shield 4 is abit lackluster I agree (reminds me of Guardian’s old shield 4 which get buffed),but Shield 5 is VERY NICE.

The 4k AOE heal WITHOUT investment in healing is very good, and justify the rooting feature because the healing amount is just excessive.

However, I do agree shield 4 need a huge buff. Maybe add a cleansing 2 conditions on self and allies that it passes through?

Crystalline Hibernation is a self heal, not an AoE heal like Envoy of Exuberance. And condi cleanse isn’t needed, otherwise it would just be a better but different version of renewing wave on staff.

Shield #4 is nice, just not with Berserker/Marauder maybe.

nearlight.3064:

Aomine.5012:

Shield 4 is abit lackluster I agree (reminds me of Guardian’s old shield 4 which get buffed),but Shield 5 is VERY NICE.

The 4k AOE heal WITHOUT investment in healing is very good, and justify the rooting feature because the healing amount is just excessive.

However, I do agree shield 4 need a huge buff. Maybe add a cleansing 2 conditions on self and allies that it passes through?

Yeah for a moment there i thought shield got buffed. Lol
Crystalline Hibernation is a self heal, not an AoE heal like Envoy of Exuberance. And condi cleanse isn’t needed, otherwise it would just be a better but different version of renewing wave on staff.

Shield is a heck of a lot more useful than this thread.

Shield 5 is worthless. The block is easily bypassed by necormancers, dragon hunters and chronomancers in addition to more rare setups of other classes. If bypassed by CC (which all listed classes have unblockable version of) it is completely negated which ends all healing and since the heal pulse is delayed you could actually end up with 0 healing. Yay for 100% drawback.

As for the comparison … Chrono shield does damage, slows attackers, provides alacrity, and doesn’t impede movement. If the shield is bypassed they can immediately recall the shield with Deja Vu.

Shield 4 is just really bad design for the class. Really think it should have been basically the Glint version of Magnetic_Surge

Taldren.7523:

Shield 5 is worthless. The block is easily bypassed by necormancers, dragon hunters and chronomancers in addition to more rare setups of other classes. If bypassed by CC (which all listed classes have unblockable version of) it is completely negated which ends all healing and since the heal pulse is delayed you could actually end up with 0 healing. Yay for 100% drawback.

As for the comparison … Chrono shield does damage, slows attackers, provides alacrity, and doesn’t impede movement. If the shield is bypassed they can immediately recall the shield with Deja Vu.

Shield 4 is just really bad design for the class. Really think it should have been basically the Glint version of Magnetic_Surge

Well the main point of shield is the extra heal and condi management and active defense on dps builds. Still I do like axe a lot in cele builds or more offensive builds.

I mean, it’s not as good as the sword (what is ), but it has its place. It does what a shield is supposed to do, block stuff to keep you on your feet. If you get some free heals and Prot out of it along the way, that’s icing on the cake.

Shield is a mixed bag, entirely situational. In pvp it can be both good n frustrating as others may use unblockable skills on u that takes u by surprise n creates a false security. If ur offensive the shield 4 is an energy n time waste where u would end up eating a hit during cast. Id say axe could be just as good if not better, could be same with sword off hand if its 5 had a different mechanic. This brings me to my next point as sword mainhan only is good for those 1v1 single target, whereas staff could be a slightly better option with its utility for group fights that occour (which ive yet to test tho)

I just wish the shield would have a bit more duality to it. Add some offensive to the already existing defensive. Even just a Blind on EoE would make it a bit more attractive to use when you’re in no need of dishing out a heal, and give it that offensive duality. CH could have Retaliation on you for the duration, so if people hit you, they get hurt (a tinsy tiny winsy bit). Again, you could use that a bit offensively too, though I must admit I quite enjoy it as-is for both PvP and PvE. It’s not a bad heal.

i barely use shield 4 as 1,6k healing is..nothing. It has too high casttime imo and travel too slow to heal someone else.

Just with Celestial Amulet that heal is 2,3k.

Not bad for 10 energy if you ask me.

I’m finding the 4 and 5 skill pretty useful in PvE encounters, combined with assorted other boons as well as the damage reduction and all, you can easily get pretty filled up on health, and the CD isn’t that great either, so in prolonged fights you can get a good few of them off.