(edited by The Ace.9105)
Suggestion: Herald reveal duration and range.
Engi reveal has casttime and doesnt act as stunbreak nor blind. Gaze is insta cast. /thread
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Engi reveal has casttime and doesnt act as stunbreak nor blind. Gaze is insta cast. /thread
That’s half correct.
Assuming that you are in herald you would need to precast this ahead of time to basically activate Facet of Darkness.
This is going to bring your energy generation down by -2 + (X) for every other upkeep skill or facet your using.
This could be a good thing if you are playing a herald and know that you are fighting a thief. For example Spvp scenarios where you know in advanced what your fighting.
Then the loss of energy isn’t that big of an issue assuming you then play conservatively and micro manage energy cost and expense a little more.
But then we look at scenerio’s like WvW.
Where the encounters are random.
You may not have 3-4 facets active at any given time
That means that at some point you will have to activate Facet of Darkness then use Gaze of Darkness as soon as it flips.
Guestimating that will take about 3/4 of a second as you need to wait the 0.3 seconds that it takes to have the skill flip on your UI bar, then for it to activate.
There are many scenario’s where a thief will succumb to this ability and many scenario’s where a thief can luckily or randomly dodge the activation of this ability.
On that same token, I would like to see this ability have the revealed duration increased as to be consistent with the other reveal trait’s
But I don’t think it needs to have it’s Radius increased.
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Also a lot of the skills you listed have to be used BEFORE the thief or mes enter’s stealth
While Gaze of Darkness and the gyro can be used to do an AoE radial reveal. No target necessary.
If you’re in WvW as a Herald and not stacking fury and swiftness while out of combat, then I’m not sure what to tell ya. This really shouldn’t be a problem.
Also, the only one of those examples that can be used on an already stealthed enemy is the Sneak Gyro, which (unless I’m out of the loop on recent changes) is visible itself even when the stealth function is active.
(edited by Black Box.9312)
If you’re in WvW as a Herald and not stacking fury and swiftness while out of combat, then I’m not sure what to tell ya. This really shouldn’t be a problem.
Also, the only one of those examples that can be used on an already stealthed enemy is the Sneak Gyro, which (unless I’m out of the loop on recent changes) is visible itself even when the stealth function is active.
Not sure where Fury and Swiftness come in to fit this scenario, minus the fact that starting out in herald to fight 70% of stealth builds is a really really bad idea.
Most initiations by a thief start with basilisk venom +( skill)
You are going to use that stun break on Gaze-
Thief continues to apply pressure and either holds out on the duration of the revealed OR ports and stealths and comes back.
It could be argued that you could heal and save the stun break-
But now you have effectively used one of the best "O SH*** " buttons the class has for an initiation.
A thing the thief can repeat.
So even with the Facet of Darkness on Pre-fight, It’s use is entirely situational and probably better mid fight.
With that in mind.
It’s also probably better to start Or initiate another class in Shiro-
Being that’s the stance that applies the most pressure, ( and has more ways to escape or evade ) with more ways to screw up a thief initiation.
Let’s say you fight a mes-
Starting out in herald get’s you kited
“You can use sword 3 to put you in range AND do damage”
Assuming that the mes OR thief hasn’t stunned you yet
That you haven’t taken significant damage from ranged attacks
AND that they haven’t forced you to use a stun break
You still have the very high possibility of having UA dodged-invulned- OR stealthed.
The important thing to remember also is that the Reveal is tied to one of the only stun breaks on the Herald.
You can force the use of this stun break early on OR force the revenant to use it’s best heal.
Either case is a win/win IF you know what you’re looking for.
Also stealth breaks UA animation.
If you’re in WvW as a Herald and not stacking fury and swiftness while out of combat, then I’m not sure what to tell ya. This really shouldn’t be a problem.
Also, the only one of those examples that can be used on an already stealthed enemy is the Sneak Gyro, which (unless I’m out of the loop on recent changes) is visible itself even when the stealth function is active.
Not sure where Fury and Swiftness come in to fit this scenario, minus the fact that starting out in herald to fight 70% of stealth builds is a really really bad idea.
Most initiations by a thief start with basilisk venom +( skill)
You are going to use that stun break on Gaze-
Thief continues to apply pressure and either holds out on the duration of the revealed OR ports and stealths and comes back.It could be argued that you could heal and save the stun break-
But now you have effectively used one of the best "O SH*** " buttons the class has for an initiation.A thing the thief can repeat.
So even with the Facet of Darkness on Pre-fight, It’s use is entirely situational and probably better mid fight.
With that in mind.
It’s also probably better to start Or initiate another class in Shiro-
Being that’s the stance that applies the most pressure, ( and has more ways to escape or evade ) with more ways to screw up a thief initiation.Let’s say you fight a mes-
Starting out in herald get’s you kited
“You can use sword 3 to put you in range AND do damage”Assuming that the mes OR thief hasn’t stunned you yet
That you haven’t taken significant damage from ranged attacks
AND that they haven’t forced you to use a stun breakYou still have the very high possibility of having UA dodged-invulned- OR stealthed.
The important thing to remember also is that the Reveal is tied to one of the only stun breaks on the Herald.
You can force the use of this stun break early on OR force the revenant to use it’s best heal.
Either case is a win/win IF you know what you’re looking for.
The point I was making was that there really shouldn’t be an activation time, since the reveal is on the active portion of the facet that grants fury, and anyone worth their salt would be stacking fury and swiftness as much as they can while out of combat in WvW anyway for the extra mobility and hefty pool of fury to work from when initiating combat.
You are over-analyzing this to a ridiculous extent.