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Posted by: akaCryptic.2389

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The next video will either be:

1) How to fight against X class (possibly series)
2) Roaming with commentary (Yishis style)
3) Same thing as this video

Thoughts?

Edit: New roaming vid #4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJUcsnMPtQ0
Edit 2: New vid #5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZvCnO4w9RE

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Posted by: QQing.3089

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Just realized how crap I am on revenant now. Thanks…

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Posted by: Vesrys.6819

Vesrys.6819

The next video will either be:

1) How to fight against X class (possibly series)
2) Roaming with commentary (Yishis style)
3) Same thing as this video

Thoughts?

1 and 2 both sound great! Quite enjoy your content. Great work

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Posted by: XxsdgxX.8109

XxsdgxX.8109

Wow pretty nice, keep them coming!

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Posted by: Dragonfeu.4356

Dragonfeu.4356

Simply amazing. Please do option 1 for the next videos

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Posted by: Rain.9213

Rain.9213

Nice. I like it. I used to run a similar build during the Beta. I am currently running core Revenant with Shiro/Jalis and it works pretty well against everything though lacks a reliable panic button like Glint’s heal skill. Might give this a shot though!

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

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It is an honor to count you among the ranks of the Revenants. This class is not an easy one to play and takes quite a bit of time and knowledge for proper timing of skills and when to use them. You are a master at it.

/em Hats off to you good Sir!

Just one question, full Marauders?

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Posted by: caerulean.4837

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Amazing job man. And the world needs more Yishis style commentaries tbh.

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Posted by: Milan.9035

Milan.9035

Agreed with all that was said. Bring us more of everything

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Posted by: akaCryptic.2389

akaCryptic.2389

It is an honor to count you among the ranks of the Revenants. This class is not an easy one to play and takes quite a bit of time and knowledge for proper timing of skills and when to use them. You are a master at it.

/em Hats off to you good Sir!

Just one question, full Marauders?

I have a few marauder pieces, here is my setup http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAscmn3guNSuQ7JRboVlsP0rS4IaWJ4EdskFNFyugJshtDIARgdMnpNA-TFDEABRcCAg4QAQwDAA+9HcXbRiqrAoSQmU+BwBE4hjEQb6A8XliAAHA/23++bgzP/8zP/8+93f/93fLFQmbtA-w

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Posted by: Cecilia.5179

Cecilia.5179

Never see S/S Revenant. I noticed that there were very few condis in those fights. How does your build handle condis?

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Posted by: Raezer.3459

Raezer.3459

Amazing gameplay.
I’m new to rev (played mes and thief before) and struggle with rotations atm.
Awesome to see your fights, i think option 1 would be really nice for beginners as well as advanced rev players.

Would you recommend to start with higher thoughness and vitality first?
How can i best learn the rev basics/ mechanics? sPvP? PvE?

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Posted by: akaCryptic.2389

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Never see S/S Revenant. I noticed that there were very few condis in those fights. How does your build handle condis?

It’s weak against condis and that is what makes power rev balanced as opposed to OP. Only cleanses are legend swap and staff 4 which have 10-15s cooldowns. Sometimes i run saffron bread (-20% condi duration) and in pvp I mostly run rune of leadership. In wvw one can also run hoelbrak or melandru runes for -40% incoming condi duration.

I get completely rekt by condi mesmers, with condi necro, condi warr and condi thief it can go either way but they do have an advantage. Best you can do is cycle blocks and evades to not get hit in the first place. I actually fight quite a few condi tanks in my first roaming video but its not as entertaining to watch as fights take long. The most watched videos are glass cannons, especially montages like thieves 1-shotting people.


Would you recommend to start with higher thoughness and vitality first?
How can i best learn the rev basics/ mechanics? sPvP? PvE?

Would definitely recommend marauders armor and weapons as the extra vitality can be helpful without sacrificing too much damage. Toughness is kinda meh, its good in long fights but i think its a bit wasted on rev cause you have so many ways to actively avoid damage unlike necro who has to soak up all the damage, so toughness is more valuable to them.

PvE rev is very different so thats not gonna be very helpful. Its okay to get a feel for skills like range and cast times but thats about it. Unranked pvp is a good place to start. Make sure to have the meta pvp build with retribution (not invocation) as stability on dodge is godsend for beginners in a teamfight. Even I rarely swap out retribution in pvp these days with so many dragonhunters around. I dont know if there are good revenant guides for beginners out there but I will say that to get sorta good on rev you need to be aware of your energy pool, energy costs and cooldowns. If you die 1v1 vs a power build, it is probably because you didnt use all your blocks, evades, heals etc. In teamfights you need to avoid the aoe condi spam unless you run mallyx. Focus freecasters and cc them, know when to disengage when under pressure as you do have the necessary tools.

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Posted by: CornishRose.2815

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I must admit, I do enjoy running Sw/Sw Assas/Dragon in focus group (as long as I too dont come up against condi mesmers). usually I run frontline rev, and it makes a nice change running Sw/Sw focus. very nice video!

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Posted by: Sorem.9157

Sorem.9157

How do you feel about going Retribution Invocation and Herald?

Great video, by the away

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Posted by: akaCryptic.2389

akaCryptic.2389

How do you feel about going Retribution Invocation and Herald?

Great video, by the away

Retri and invo together would definitely work. I think invo and devastation have close dps but one has a condi clear and one has lifesteal.

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Posted by: rchu.8945

rchu.8945

great video, awesome skills.

Just curious, is will a sword/shied + staff work with your build? Or sw/sw just give you more offense options?

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Posted by: akaCryptic.2389

akaCryptic.2389

great video, awesome skills.

Just curious, is will a sword/shied + staff work with your build? Or sw/sw just give you more offense options?

Yes shield will work as well, simple trade off between CC and sustain. In fact shield is much more common. I like to go more offensive.


Also, just released a new roaming vid, thought you guys would enjoy:

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Posted by: Pumpkin.5169

Pumpkin.5169

Fun video. Keep’em coming. Cheers!

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Posted by: ryandeniszorro.6735

ryandeniszorro.6735

This is all great , but, how the hell u can deal with condi heavy opponents ? Main reason i completely left reve out of my roaming sessions, is coz its unable to parry classes like condi thief or condi mesmer.

cheers

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Posted by: akaCryptic.2389

akaCryptic.2389

This is all great , but, how the hell u can deal with condi heavy opponents ? Main reason i completely left reve out of my roaming sessions, is coz its unable to parry classes like condi thief or condi mesmer.

cheers

Gonna quote myself:

" It’s weak against condis and that is what makes power rev balanced as opposed to OP. Only cleanses are legend swap and staff 4 which have 10-15s cooldowns. Sometimes i run saffron bread (-20% condi duration) and in pvp I mostly run rune of leadership. In wvw one can also run hoelbrak or melandru runes for -40% incoming condi duration.
I get completely rekt by condi mesmers, with condi necro, condi warr and condi thief it can go either way but they do have an advantage. Best you can do is cycle blocks and evades to not get hit in the first place. I actually fight quite a few condi tanks in my first roaming video but its not as entertaining to watch as fights take long. The most watched videos are glass cannons, especially montages like thieves 1-shotting people."

To add to this, I made a vid on how to duel against mesmers which includes some tips other than “use your cleanse wisely”. You’ll still lose most fights though, no build should be unstoppable.

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Posted by: Vyrulisse.1246

Vyrulisse.1246

Just realized how crap I am on revenant now. Thanks…

I know that feel. x.x I’m horrible at this class but I love it for some reason.

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Posted by: LordTemujin.5498

LordTemujin.5498

verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry nice

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Posted by: BlaqueFyre.5678

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I am testing a Corruption/Devastation/Herald Toaming build using Sw/Sw with Mallyx and Glint, slowly piecing the gear together using Mara and Commanders

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Posted by: Cecilia.5179

Cecilia.5179

I am testing a Corruption/Devastation/Herald Toaming build using Sw/Sw with Mallyx and Glint, slowly piecing the gear together using Mara and Commanders

Sounds like it has 1 stunbreak. Not sure it will fare well.

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Posted by: akaCryptic.2389

akaCryptic.2389

I am testing a Corruption/Devastation/Herald Toaming build using Sw/Sw with Mallyx and Glint, slowly piecing the gear together using Mara and Commanders

Sounds like it has 1 stunbreak. Not sure it will fare well.

I was gonna say this as well. The build will still struggle in a 3v3 scenario while having poor mobility. Retribution grandmasters are all pretty crap right now, but the stability nerf was needed and it wasn’t over the top, here’s why:

In the past, only a dodge roll could proc this trait, meaning that there were cases in which you were heavily focused and had to double dodge which meant less stability uptime. However now it’s on “evade” so skills like shiro stunbreak, sword 3, staff 5, hammer 3 can trigger it as well. That said, an ideal condi setup in my eyes would include sword axe + mace shield/sword, herald corruption retribution, glint mallyx. Axe will somewhat compensate for the lack of shiro. Now, invo devas zerker rev is still superior, but condi may shine in the future with the right buffs to mallyx and retribution GMs.

P.S: new vid #5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZvCnO4w9RE (:

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Posted by: BlaqueFyre.5678

BlaqueFyre.5678

I am testing a Corruption/Devastation/Herald Toaming build using Sw/Sw with Mallyx and Glint, slowly piecing the gear together using Mara and Commanders

Sounds like it has 1 stunbreak. Not sure it will fare well.

I was gonna say this as well. The build will still struggle in a 3v3 scenario while having poor mobility. Retribution grandmasters are all pretty crap right now, but the stability nerf was needed and it wasn’t over the top, here’s why:

In the past, only a dodge roll could proc this trait, meaning that there were cases in which you were heavily focused and had to double dodge which meant less stability uptime. However now it’s on “evade” so skills like shiro stunbreak, sword 3, staff 5, hammer 3 can trigger it as well. That said, an ideal condi setup in my eyes would include sword axe + mace shield/sword, herald corruption retribution, glint mallyx. Axe will somewhat compensate for the lack of shiro. Now, invo devas zerker rev is still superior, but condi may shine in the future with the right buffs to mallyx and retribution GMs.

P.S: new vid #5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZvCnO4w9RE (:

Yeah it was a little rough, I am not that great with Rev to begin with still learning it but not having Stunbreaks was a small issue unless I was against a Warrior then it was the worst matchup possible, now I only swap to it when facing Condi builds.