When are they gonna fix Revenant?
No EU “pro” teams take DH. Only 2 NA teams took a single DH. However, almost every team has at least one Rev and often stacking 2 revs.
Get your info right and L2p.
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Almost every post in Rev forum calling for nerfs, and the majority of the posts on any given day in the PvP forums doing the same.
Yet not a single word from Arenanet. They really, really don’t want to nerf their fancy flagship HOT class. Their arrogance is ruining PvP for everyone.
I have an 80% winrate with Rev in pvp ever since the leagues started. We are probably the strongest class in the game right now. This is a L2P issue.
Don’t play into the DH traps. If you get trapped in Dragon’s Maw (the one that holds you in), don’t try to dodge through it. Just wait it out, with your shield 5 and glint heal (since you’re doing power shiro, I assume you’re taking glint).
As power shiro, you have multiple evade skills, two blocks (one from the trait) that heal, 2 heal skills (one of which can be activated even when being knocked about), and your dodges on top of that. Yes, you’re a glass cannon, but if you can’t use these skills to your advantage, it’s really more of a L2P issue.
For what it’s worth though, condi herald is better than power.
Rev doesn’t need to be fixed, that’s the problem. If you’re not doing well with revenant, it’s a L2P issue.
what i dont rly understand is, People saying Revenant is Ruining SPVP. it isnt JUST rev that is imbalanced.
Revs Reapers Chronomancers and Tempests are ALL Sitting in pretty high Use, and all are pretty equally dominating in the current meta, dont act like this is Just a rev being Outside what is considered balanced because it isnt.
i’ll tell you what is ruining SPVP.
0 Solo queue options, as stated, but that isnt a proffession matter.
3 Proffessions ( Warrior thief and Guardian ) unused, this is causing a Major hault to diversity, we’re seeing 2 rev set ups Because theres Nothing else majorly, ur Mesmers are bunkering your Tempest are supporting Scrappers and Reapers are bruisers, as thief Warrior and Guardian got thrown out ofcourse they stacked revs, what other options do u have for the final slots? :P
Elite Specializations making base proffessions look weak, 0 diversity the base proffessions dont exist anymore anywhere in SPVP now, nobody uses them.
Spvp ruined itself, not because of one Single thing, but the whole thing.
I thought trap Guardians and condi Zerkers were still doing pretty well in PvP?
Lol. Question should be when are they gonna nerf it? Dmg scaling is insane. I compare it only to my DH when both in full zerker rev does around 2k dmg more. Also Revs 2 is 2 sec cd and can be casted while moving
I find it ok to play but when it comes to cc breaks or sustain is just the worst class. DPS rev does not do much damage in pvp anymore and some times when you switch legends all weapon skill goes unavailable for a sec.
We got a Minor Trait to make swapping Legends a Stunbreak in Invocation, if you use the Legendary Dragon Stance, you got a Stunbreak in Gaze of Darkness, if you’re a Shiro lover, you got Riposting Shadows. Personally I get by fine with Gaze of Darkness. Can’t say that I think Rev does little damage in PvP either, nor do I think I’ve ever experienced all weapons becoming unavailable.
pro players will build a high heal class and a high burst condi or when it comes to physical attack will be Daredevils. all pvp team will always have at least 2 DH for the aoe daze and CC spam. and when you want to play a pro Herald you cannot go DPS or you will just end up as a food so best choice is to go Condi Tank but this build does not have cc break.
I run a Condi Bunker build, that I tailored to be a bit more of an all-rounder. Celestial amulet, Superior Rune of the Berserker (PvP), Force and Bursting Sigils on both weapon set (Mace/Axe + Staff). Retribution, Corruption and Herald lines.
some people does not know this but the worst enemy of a Revenant are cripple, ice, slow, daze. a DH Test of Faith skill or Dragon Maw have no way of escape even with Reposting Shadows, and DH can pull you down 4x is short time.
Conditions are hardly a enemy to most Revenants and their nearby allies. You just focus on maintaining Pain Absorption to both remove their conditions and apply Resistance. And DH is hardly a threat to most players, there are a few good ones, but most are terrible, and dodge-activating their traps makes it trivial to fight them on their own. Unwavering Avoidance in the Retribution line also gives you Stability on dodge, so that doesn’t hurt. Most DH will die to some Banish Enchantment spam. It’s unblockable, it loads Confusion up on people it travels through and it removes Boons rapidly. It’s one of the better skills in the Mallyx utilities, besides Pain Absorption when applicable.
Rev has been very slow in movement terms (just as I see and feel it) that other classes who just received swiftness run hella faster which makes it for Herald to have hard time to get in and hit target.
I can’t say I ever have problems hitting my targets. Banish Enchantment is 600 Range. Searing Fissure creates a 480 range field. Temporal Rift is 900 range. Echoing Eruption travels 410 range. Are you running too far for me? Frigid Blitz is 900 range, and it’ll Chill the target (sure, you can miss, but you can miss with anything). Surge of the Mists on Staff will send you forwards a bit too. You can use Unyielding Anguish to travel 600 range at a time. Chills your foe(s). And honestly.. who cares if your foe can get away anyways? It means you got the point. You shouldn’t fight off point anyways.
the energy refill just feel so slow and takes you 4 to 5 second to be able to use a skill in mallyx while leaving you with no way to deffend your self in that time of you gathering energy.
You can use every Mallyx skill instantly upon swapping. It’s 2 seconds before you can use say Unyielding Anguish a second time. You can spam Banish Enchantment twice, then it’s two seconds before you can use it again. Sure, it’s 5 seconds before you can use Pain Absorption again, but that’s a really good team utility skill. You’ll easily have Resistance up for more than 5 seconds when you need to use it.
there are so much problems that a revenant cant do which makes them food. that is how I see revenant when I play against one using DH or Chrono. so for those who will say they are all pro and you just need to do this and that then please feel free to explain how to fight sustaining with DPS build and snare cripple and the most annoying skill that keeps knocking you down when you pass it or even try to evade it. which are DH skill traps….. post a vid please or let ANET know this problems.
DH traps.. dodge. Just dodge. You should easily be able to see where they lay them down. It’s easy to predict when a DH will try to use their traps. Dodge. It activates the trap, and they can’t do anything as you use your ranged attacks outside of them. Well, besides trying to poke you with a few shots. DH’s are squishy. Too many of them rely on trying to use trap spam to win. Which works against inexperienced players (not saying the players are bad, just not accustomed to dodge-activating the traps and laughing on the inside when the DH is absolutely rubbish at anything but their one-pony-trick), but not too many experienced ones. A really good DH, those can be painful. But how often do you really come across those, let’s be honest here.
Personally, I don’t see why people run Viper’s. I think Celestial is better. I think Revenant makes a excellent offensive, team-supportive bunker. The Berserker Runes compliment it well, together with Force and Bursting Sigils (+10% to both types of damage). In the traits, you find a whole lot of defense for various issues that may come up, with the perma-Fury, your Crit Chance will still be 50%. Our utilities aren’t too bad, even if we can’t tailor them. And yes, there are times when I feel Mallyx is a bit too costly, but then I remember how freaking powerful every single one of the abilities are. It needs to be that way. Weapon skills are cheap anyways, I can use those while I generate Energy again.
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0/10 troll post.
Rev is dominating, even more than D/D eles ever were.