returning after more than a year
Revenant is not bad right now. but still far from perfect. Sure, it has been nerfed a lot because of PvP.
I don’t know where is Revenant going to be after PoF.
Revenant is still one of the best class in WvW with how good the damage and utility hammer offers. One of the best range weapons in WvW for sure.
Hammer 2 ignores projectile block and does massive damage that’s hard to tell it’s coming.
Hammer 3 is a free evade and very good aoe damage.
Hammer 4 is a free projectile block as well as some minor healing source because of the field.
Hammer 5 is a decent range cc which is quite valuable in wvw.
Glint provides permanent might/ fury/ swiftness/ regen uptime and have antiburst heal that works on both condition and power damage.
Mallyx provides stunbreak and lots of resistance for self sustain.
Not to mention this class is a heavy armor too with decent hp!
Revenant and Guardian are the Meta of WvW.
Well, I just recently returned also, so I’m certainly not an expert at rev. However, I can say that while the forums tend to be very gloom and doom, rev seems to be working well enough for me. Like Aomine mentioned, going Hammer in WvW seems to be very effective, and it’s pretty fun. I haven’t really played warrior or guardian as much though, so I can’t really compare the three classes.
on a condi rev……how do you deal with range situations? would using a hammer fit with glint/mallyx?
on a condi rev……how do you deal with range situations? would using a hammer fit with glint/mallyx?
Hammer doesn’t need any trait to perform at its top peak, so basically you can go either Glint / Mallyx, Glint/ Dwarf, or Mallyx/ Dwarf.
All of them has its uses in WvW, but the most common one is Glint / Mallyx because resistance is such an important boon in WvW.
Condition Revenant is a melee spec, so you fight in melee.
You probably need abit more defensive gears if you want to play Condition Revenant because it’s a front-role class that charge in first. Also condition revenant is a better roamer than Power Revenant in general.
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Also condition revenant is a better roamer than Power Revenant in general.
That isn’t true at all.
In mid to large groups Revenant is used as the main source of resistance for the team, so Mallyx provides a solid “ignore all condi damage for a few seconds” to your team mates, specially if your Rev is geared towards concentration. The menace of ranged attacks from foes is covered by other fellows.
As a roamer, you can go either power or condi. In both cases the Revenant or Herald is highly handicaped tue their inability to deal with stealth and enemies poking at range. Oftenly our worst nemesis combine stealth + range + conditions, as happens with condi DDs, Chronos and Druids.
The condition Revenant roamer can proc reistance for a few seconds, but due energy cost is impossible to remain constantly in Mallyx, and a elusive target (stealth, teleports) can easily spam conditions over us and await the legend change to land condi burst. Condi Rev is also weak vs characters with a strong ranged damage, because our tools over the 600 unit range are minimal.
Power Rev is much weaker to conditions, but has better defensive tools and his spike damage is way larger. If you play exquisitely you can survive vs condi foes: we saw a few power Revs winning the 1 vs 1 tournaments casted by Jebro (despite facing skilled Necros and Mesmers); we haven’t seen any condi Rev doing a crap at high level play, neither at 5 v 5 Conquest tournaments or 1 v 1 duels.
That doesn’t mean that you can’t win skirmishes as a condi Rev: you can. But is mostly because those players are worse or have sub-optimal builds.
The Renegade willl add an insult to the injury, because Kalla is useless, as F2 and F4, and the bow not only lacks synergies with Mallyx and the mace+axe combo (which are mostly torment based, whereas the bow is focused on bleeds), but also due lacks any defensive or mobility skill. A staff with shortbow’s #1 and #2 would be infinitely more strong that what we will get. Also, a pistol obviously would have been a better choice because at least would give us the option to defend with off hand sword.
Can’t wait to see in the much demanded greatsword spec in the thord expansion! For sure probably will be a weapon focused on healings to complement a legend oriented towards magic finding boons or something equally revolting!
Also condition revenant is a better roamer than Power Revenant in general.
That isn’t true at all.
In mid to large groups Revenant is used as the main source of resistance for the team, so Mallyx provides a solid “ignore all condi damage for a few seconds” to your team mates, specially if your Rev is geared towards concentration. The menace of ranged attacks from foes is covered by other fellows.
As a roamer, you can go either power or condi. In both cases the Revenant or Herald is highly handicaped tue their inability to deal with stealth and enemies poking at range. Oftenly our worst nemesis combine stealth + range + conditions, as happens with condi DDs, Chronos and Druids.
The condition Revenant roamer can proc reistance for a few seconds, but due energy cost is impossible to remain constantly in Mallyx, and a elusive target (stealth, teleports) can easily spam conditions over us and await the legend change to land condi burst. Condi Rev is also weak vs characters with a strong ranged damage, because our tools over the 600 unit range are minimal.
Power Rev is much weaker to conditions, but has better defensive tools and his spike damage is way larger. If you play exquisitely you can survive vs condi foes: we saw a few power Revs winning the 1 vs 1 tournaments casted by Jebro (despite facing skilled Necros and Mesmers); we haven’t seen any condi Rev doing a crap at high level play, neither at 5 v 5 Conquest tournaments or 1 v 1 duels.
That doesn’t mean that you can’t win skirmishes as a condi Rev: you can. But is mostly because those players are worse or have sub-optimal builds.
The Renegade willl add an insult to the injury, because Kalla is useless, as F2 and F4, and the bow not only lacks synergies with Mallyx and the mace+axe combo (which are mostly torment based, whereas the bow is focused on bleeds), but also due lacks any defensive or mobility skill. A staff with shortbow’s #1 and #2 would be infinitely more strong that what we will get. Also, a pistol obviously would have been a better choice because at least would give us the option to defend with off hand sword.
Can’t wait to see in the much demanded greatsword spec in the thord expansion! For sure probably will be a weapon focused on healings to complement a legend oriented towards magic finding boons or something equally revolting!
Well, when my power Revenant meets Condition Revenant, most likely I’d lose the match -.- That’s why I say Condition Revenant might be a better roaming spec cuz condition is just more OP in general when it comes to roaming.
Most of the tough opponents I face run condition build, like condition thief.
Condi Rev works better vs burn Guardians, Necros and Eles, because they are mostly short range fighters that can fight you while swimming inside their own pool of condis, and your ability to pressure them at range is small, so the Mallyx reistance can be crucial.
It’s not going to be true soon. Guardians are getting the ability to output huge condi damage from range, Necros will get huge boonrip, boon conversion and condi output with Scourge (goodbye Resistance).