Guild Wars 2

I think they need to do 1 of the 2. There is no reason to have 4 seconds with the small burst thieves do in spvp. 3 seconds would make it much more balanced.

Yes, returning Revealed to 3 seconds is more than justified in sPvP.

I hate that sPvP has a different rule-set, especially when such core mechanics like Revealed are involved.

Adjusting numbers is ok (not ideal, but acceptable), but having mechanics work differently is not.

Plus any thief build other than s/d kinda sucks in this meta… but hopefully the condi nerfs change that lol

Burst and reveal are ok. I think.

The game was better when it just game out and people could actually burst. Now its just AOE condi spam.

Demonts.4593:

I think they need to do 1 of the 2. There is no reason to have 4 seconds with the small burst thieves do in spvp. 3 seconds would make it much more balanced.

How is thief burst is “small” in sPvP? I deleted my thief a week ago or so, but I could burst people down quite easily. With minimum game-sense it’s not particularly hard to survive without stealth either.

its not small against another glass cannon… but usually the other team only has 1 glass build and he is way in the back

The 4 second reveal still sucks horribly and shouldn’t exist. Thank god they reverted it for PvE and WvW but they left it in Spvp for some reason. No one complains about it as much anymore though because majority of Spvp Thieves just dropped using D/D all together.

Demonts.4593:

its not small against another glass cannon… but usually the other team only has 1 glass build and he is way in the back

Then it’s not a small burst – it’s a durable opponent.

You shouldn’t be able to burst high armor foes. That’s the entire point of tank builds. They counter you and condition damage counters them.

Ok but i just dont feel like burst builds fit the meta at all right now. Too squishy with no healer or support.

It’s a good nerf or balance w/e it’s called, I think 4 secs is pretty much fine for us the thieves.

Small burst? lol maybe you’re running soldier, even though with that you should get a lot of damage.

I think both are pretty balance and working.
I’d rather keep them like that than another huge nerf to stealth.

its not a good nerf. The 3 second reveal is entirely called for cuz nodody runs d/d because of it. Also, the meta leans towards tanky, AOE condi classes. So there is hardly anything to burst. Even glassy necros are tanky due to DS.

Demonts.4593:

its not a good nerf. The 3 second reveal is entirely called for cuz nodody runs d/d because of it. Also, the meta leans towards tanky, AOE condi classes. So there is hardly anything to burst. Even glassy necros are tanky due to DS.

Try d/p with 30 in SA. it goes pretty well, at least for me.

Duke Blackrose.4981:

Demonts.4593:

its not small against another glass cannon… but usually the other team only has 1 glass build and he is way in the back

Then it’s not a small burst – it’s a durable opponent.

You shouldn’t be able to burst high armor foes. That’s the entire point of tank builds. They counter you and condition damage counters them.

Yet condition builds can melt BOTH High Armor and High Burst builds whilst being tanky.

D/D isn’t even viable in spvp anymore, a revert to 3s again could possibly bring it back or at least give some thief survival out of stealth other than LOL EVADE X9000