Guild Wars 2

doesnt matter if they have 3k or 13k ap.. nop not happening ^^

Doesn’t matter if you have 3k or 13k ap, none of you get into smoke fields I blast or my shadow refuge.

When I run with my guild I blast into fields for stealth all the time. With pugs… well they just run out of range or kitten around and attack something anyway. I mean some ppl don’t even know how shadow refuge works still…

Karolis.4261:

Doesn’t matter if you have 3k or 13k ap, none of you get into smoke fields I blast or my shadow refuge.

I’ve never met anyone over 2k ap that doesn’t know about sr stacking.. assuming the lfg said exp

Communication helps, apparently. Not every skipping trick is common knowledge.

If you want me to stealth the group, just say so.

I hate the whole " X AP ONLY" requirement people place on groups.
What has AP got to do with anything?

Someone could spend their time getting every achievement they can before they hit 80 and end up with say 8k AP, or someone can power through to 80 and play for months with 300 AP. Why on earth would you want the fresh 80 over the guy who has months of experience at 80?

godz raiden.2631:

When I run with my guild I blast into fields for stealth all the time. With pugs… well they just run out of range or kitten around and attack something anyway. I mean some ppl don’t even know how shadow refuge works still…

This. No point in trying to do it when all it takes is one chuckle kitten to walk out of the field 2 seconds before it finishes, and ruins the whole thing. At that point, it would have been just faster to kill the mobs, get some $$$, and move on instead of having a repair bill to attend to.

McFribble.2349:

godz raiden.2631:

When I run with my guild I blast into fields for stealth all the time. With pugs… well they just run out of range or kitten around and attack something anyway. I mean some ppl don’t even know how shadow refuge works still…

This. No point in trying to do it when all it takes is one chuckle kitten to walk out of the field 2 seconds before it finishes, and ruins the whole thing. At that point, it would have been just faster to kill the mobs, get some $$$, and move on instead of having a repair bill to attend to.

sad but true. bc when they drop stealth the aoe kills you all. arah for instance.

Travlane.5948:

McFribble.2349:

godz raiden.2631:

When I run with my guild I blast into fields for stealth all the time. With pugs… well they just run out of range or kitten around and attack something anyway. I mean some ppl don’t even know how shadow refuge works still…

This. No point in trying to do it when all it takes is one chuckle kitten to walk out of the field 2 seconds before it finishes, and ruins the whole thing. At that point, it would have been just faster to kill the mobs, get some $$$, and move on instead of having a repair bill to attend to.

sad but true. bc when they drop stealth the aoe kills you all. arah for instance.

Kinda funny reading this, it’s a nice change to the usual ‘omfg stealth = invuln’ post ^^
Not that I disagree with what you said or anything, just made me chuckle.

Dee Jay.2460:

Communication helps, apparently. Not every skipping trick is common knowledge.

If you want me to stealth the group, just say so.

I literally explain exactly what to do including “make sure not to detonate sb2 or else it wont work” and then nobody says anything. 5 sec later…. house goes down

Been a moot point for me, as I don’t even attempt to bring my thief on fractals anymore, people just QQ and kick.

I bring mine in 50 all the time, I love it.

Jugglemonkey.8741:

Travlane.5948:

McFribble.2349:

godz raiden.2631:

When I run with my guild I blast into fields for stealth all the time. With pugs… well they just run out of range or kitten around and attack something anyway. I mean some ppl don’t even know how shadow refuge works still…

This. No point in trying to do it when all it takes is one chuckle kitten to walk out of the field 2 seconds before it finishes, and ruins the whole thing. At that point, it would have been just faster to kill the mobs, get some $$$, and move on instead of having a repair bill to attend to.

sad but true. bc when they drop stealth the aoe kills you all. arah for instance.

Kinda funny reading this, it’s a nice change to the usual ‘omfg stealth = invuln’ post ^^
Not that I disagree with what you said or anything, just made me chuckle.

when i said drop i meant break stealth :P

Faux.1937:

I bring mine in 50 all the time, I love it.

agreed. thief actually has an important roll in fractals.

plus p/p works amazing there…. oddly enough to say. i wouldnt use itanywhere else tho.

thief stealth allows you skip ALOT plus revive.

Why would you use p/p in fractals when the meta build works fine?

nm its Travlane. Answered my own question.

Travlane.5948:

Faux.1937:

I bring mine in 50 all the time, I love it.

agreed. thief actually has an important roll in fractals.

plus p/p works amazing there…. oddly enough to say. i wouldnt use itanywhere else tho.

thief stealth allows you skip ALOT plus revive.

Ummm….. there is only a couple fights I would bring p/p to fotm. S/p PW/black power spam is to good with SB for stealth and might stacking. Ive out lived many warriors and guards (well out lived all classes) b.c of well timed evades.

Travlane.5948:

Jugglemonkey.8741:

Travlane.5948:

McFribble.2349:

godz raiden.2631:

When I run with my guild I blast into fields for stealth all the time. With pugs… well they just run out of range or kitten around and attack something anyway. I mean some ppl don’t even know how shadow refuge works still…

This. No point in trying to do it when all it takes is one chuckle kitten to walk out of the field 2 seconds before it finishes, and ruins the whole thing. At that point, it would have been just faster to kill the mobs, get some $$$, and move on instead of having a repair bill to attend to.

sad but true. bc when they drop stealth the aoe kills you all. arah for instance.

Kinda funny reading this, it’s a nice change to the usual ‘omfg stealth = invuln’ post ^^
Not that I disagree with what you said or anything, just made me chuckle.

when i said drop i meant break stealth :P

Ah, my mistake ^^

p/p w/ SB is great in FoTM

10/30/0/0/30

ricochet
RFI
blinding powder
Daggerstorm
shadow refuge
Signet of malice

proc HP steals galore

doing 8k-15k unloads + thousands of HP heal + AOE dmg + hp steals + ranged and much much more.

only the cliffside boss is hard with p/p bc of reflection ability. other than that its great. especially at the molten bosses.

s/p is ok too but i find it a little more risky bc it puts you in harms way for the same damage and less healing and less chance at rally if u need it. range is always better in fractals.

Travlane.5948:

p/p w/ SB is great in FoTM

10/30/0/0/30

ricochet
RFI
blinding powder
Daggerstorm
shadow refuge
Signet of malice

proc HP steals galore

doing 8k-15k unloads + thousands of HP heal + AOE dmg + hp steals + ranged and much much more.

only the cliffside boss is hard with p/p bc of reflection ability. other than that its great. especially at the molten bosses.

s/p is ok too but i find it a little more risky bc it puts you in harms way for the same damage and less healing and less chance at rally if u need it. range is always better in fractals.

Oh hey now… S/P does way more damage then p/p in aoe and single target fights. Pistol whip is 10-15 % stronger then unload (including pistol mastery on p/p)+and you cant even compare sword auto attack and pistol auto attack. + Sword cleaves by default.

Karolis.4261:

Travlane.5948:

p/p w/ SB is great in FoTM

10/30/0/0/30

ricochet
RFI
blinding powder
Daggerstorm
shadow refuge
Signet of malice

proc HP steals galore

doing 8k-15k unloads + thousands of HP heal + AOE dmg + hp steals + ranged and much much more.

only the cliffside boss is hard with p/p bc of reflection ability. other than that its great. especially at the molten bosses.

s/p is ok too but i find it a little more risky bc it puts you in harms way for the same damage and less healing and less chance at rally if u need it. range is always better in fractals.

Oh hey now… S/P does way more damage then p/p in aoe and single target fights. Pistol whip is 10-15 % stronger then unload (including pistol mastery on p/p)+and you cant even compare sword auto attack and pistol auto attack. + Sword cleaves by default.

i feel you onthat….but unload + ricochet + SOM and life steals make them even. i get about 30% up to 50% more dmg on unload from ricochet alone AND they dont have to be close together…AND im not in harms way….

that extra 10-15% dmg comes at a Very high risk. and cant heal as well as ricochet+unload …ontop of that ricochet can make the dmg equal on fights over 1v1.