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Posted by: andyMak.6985

andyMak.6985

Hi, i am a female human thief

Sometimes i may spend hours in WvW and i have no choice but to go to the bathroom behind a bush.
This is very personal and i don’t like to be seen.

Now because of Anet i an now revealed for an extra second!!

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!

This is a privacy breach, did AnET not think of this when they made this change?

This has affected me in the past, i used to have dirty old guys sneak up to watch and i would whip them with my pistol but now it’s like a tickle!

i would throw caltrops down to stop people getting too close but now they don’t last as long


On a more serious note,

4s reveal has not affected me at all i find i dont get time to pull out a full rotation at all when in WvW, i think i get lag and they’re not as close as i think they are as i will backstab and they will dodge or stun me or it will constantly say miss miss miss

i am glad they didn’t do the reveal without attacking, this makes me happy

thank you Anet

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Posted by: Auesis.7301

Auesis.7301

…well that’s one way to react.

Gnome Child [Gc]
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Posted by: Leohart.4610

Leohart.4610

I lol’ed. Great post, very well put and very professionally criticized. 5 stars, you win teh internetz

Your creativity level is over 9000.

Edit: At least the first part was good

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Posted by: Arganthium.5638

Arganthium.5638

Lol, thank you for writing this.

Thief|Mesmer|
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Posted by: Kyrion.2749

Kyrion.2749

4s reveal has not affected me at all i find i dont get time to pull out a full rotation at all when in WvW, i think i get lag and they’re not as close as i think they are as i will backstab and they will dodge or stun me or it will constantly say miss miss miss

i am glad they didn’t do the reveal without attacking, this makes me happy

thank you Anet

I’m glad that the revealed nerf didn’t affect you at all. In fact, all thieves already know that the revealed nerf didn’t affect WvsW at all, nor sPvP.

But that’s the whole frakin’ point.

Yes, thieves know that all PvPers are inmensely happy because the “nerf” DID NOTHING AT ALL to them. Yes, thieves know that PvPers will do anything at their hand to prevent a ‘revert’ or a ‘another fix’ that affects them… from expressing their happiness with the patch, to ridiculize post from people that show discontent.

However, you must understand that other people like to play PvE, you know, that thing that comprises the other 80% game’s content, and this patch actually had a very noticeable impact on their gameplay.

So, I’m glad for you, truly I am. But now, how about getting some tweaks here and there in order to make EVERY THIEF happy?

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Posted by: andyMak.6985

andyMak.6985

it doesn’t matter what they do, you will all still have a cry and say how unplayable the class is.

Deal with it, adapt and move on or find something else to do. it’s not like you’re paying a subscription.

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Posted by: Kyrion.2749

Kyrion.2749

What they do matters to me, and to a lot of people actually. I cry when I have reasons to cry, the same as you will cry when they ‘touch’ YOUR playstyle or your combos.

I will adapt if they leave me no choice, of course, but the forums are a tool to express our concerns. And I’m not paying a susbscription, true, but I’m sure Anet have an interest in keeping a happy playerbase in order to buy their future expansions.

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Posted by: Rizzy.8293

Rizzy.8293

Thats because you wvwvw, this change effected pve thieves.

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Posted by: Zidd.6083

Zidd.6083

I guess not ALL thieves know that the 4 sec. reveal don’t affect wvw. I feel greatly affected as a valkyrie/divinity D/D thief with 10/30/30/0/0.

Hard to tell yet if the decreased damage (due to less back stabs) is a big deal. To me, the destroyed rotation seems the hardest thing to cope with (Having revealed debuff stop in the middle of the auto attack cycle). It seems such a rushed solution that doesn’t benefit anything at all. After all, auto attack is pretty big in this game. I felt compelled to stack even more cnd’s than ever before which I guess, whas not the point of this patch.

I believe that changing the auto attack cycle with an extra attack could (maybe) solve the issue. I don’t know.

I don’t mind if some profession (class) seems very strong to other classes. I mean, most classes can be devastating to one another if played well, which the vast majority of the player base don’t do (Everybody believes they are better than average, it’s a scientific fact in most aspects of life which clearly also applies to gaming), but destroying a class rotation for some reason seems so weird to me and it makes me wonder if Anet actually test these changes themselves before releasing them into the public? I’m new to Anet, so I don’t know.

What I do know however, is that when such, to me, game breaking mechanics can be introduced just like that, it’s time for me to do something else. Guess I’m not a REAL gamer then

GL guys with your thiefs if you are willing to “adapt” as some of you like to call it. For me it’s over for now. I’m in it for the “rogue” play. Yes, the annoying play style that touches very human nature and tricks people into running scared screaming that rogues, thiefs, assassins or whatever are OP because they cannot cope with this style of play.

To me, well played guardians are the worst, easily surviving 3-5 man hitting him for extended periods of time. But also crazy, flying bunker elementalists or sneaky stealthing, dodging mesmers can be rather annoying too. Well played engineers can crush a thief as well. You win some you lose some no matter how good you are, thiefs too, I have also tried to have my kitten handed to me from time to time even by a warrior. There’s no “I win button” in this game, only good and bad/less good players. Which in my opinion is the way it should be.

It really seems to me that there are a lot of viable builds in this game (some classes have more options than others), but after the latest patch and in the current state, I feel that thiefs have at least one less option which is a shame.

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Posted by: JohnnyZero.5619

JohnnyZero.5619

I guess not ALL thieves know that the 4 sec. reveal don’t affect wvw. I feel greatly affected as a valkyrie/divinity D/D thief with 10/30/30/0/0

I used to run that build as well. Try 10/30/15/15/0, and pick up the 2 init on stealth and vigor on healing traits. It’s been working well for me so far.

I don’t care for the 4sec reveal either, but I have to say that I think it’s forcing me to play smarter. The rotation issue is an annoyance, but it’s easily adaptable.

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Posted by: Jack of Tears.9458

Jack of Tears.9458

The 4s reveal isn’t my favorite, but I’ve been hurt a lot more by not dropping agro when stealthing and the much easier stealth interrupts now. I relied on that to give me an extra second here or there when I needed to disengage and let my pets take some of the agro while I changed position, healed up, whathaveyou. (or just for a quick second to recoup when somethin’ went terribly wrong)

Now not only is my timing off, but so is every single stealth tactic. I can adjust, I’ll have to, but by the time I do, then what? We get nerfed again?

I love my Thief, but Anet is turning that into a really abusive relationship.


I’m sorry I stepped outta yer box, don’ worry, if
ya whine enough they’ll put me right back.

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Posted by: Volrath.1473

Volrath.1473

as a tournament player it also affects me since i rely on stealth allot for both offensive and defensive abilities with this 1 sec nerf it reduced my access to this ability quite a bit, it’s not just 1 second, on a long fight (1-2min) its a 10 second difference between before patch and after patch. for a duelist like me it DOES affect me quite allot! its 10 more seconds that im visible and vulnerable than I was before and its 10 more seconds that I cant use any of my stealth skills and stealth abilities.

I know A-net will not roll this back anyway, ill just continue to lvl my alt and use my Thief as extra bank space since he’s got all 8 bag slots…