I can’t really run a backstab build in spvp (team queue mostly) anymore because it just doesn’t do enough damage. =( I can do more damage than a backstab by dodge rolling twice with caltrops traited and getting 4-8 stacks of bleeding for those 4 seconds (revealed).
Anyone have a good backstab build for spvp please? Would really appreciate it. Doing signet doesn’t work as well anymore and I can’t seem to synergize s/d or s/p. Will post p/d build below (which you can advise on if you want, though I am interested in getting a d/x build back).
D/D. People usually fall off their chair, and say “no…no… no no! ~scream~” when they see this build, but it currently is among the best ways to make D/D work, SB is more or less the mainset though and pumps out high dmg in team fights, I’ve been using it a lot myself and I adore the high damage I can cause with D/D when I need to spike someone.
D/P meta, works same as always, use interrupts and blinds to ruin the day for someone in a teamfight, and spike in an usual fashion with (BV)>BP>HS>Steal>BS, while under high pressure at a point use SB for poison and some sustained aoe damage.
D/D. People usually fall off their chair, and say “no…no… no no! ~scream~” when they see this build, but it currently is among the best ways to make D/D work, SB is more or less the mainset though and pumps out high dmg in team fights, I’ve been using it a lot myself and I adore the high damage I can cause with D/D when I need to spike someone.
This is what I normally run with s/d-d/p. If you want to see potentially huge backstabs you run this.. But you should take improvisation not dagger training, don’t know why everyone always overlooks this amazing trait.
D/D. People usually fall off their chair, and say “no…no… no no! ~scream~” when they see this build, but it currently is among the best ways to make D/D work, SB is more or less the mainset though and pumps out high dmg in team fights, I’ve been using it a lot myself and I adore the high damage I can cause with D/D when I need to spike someone.
This is what I normally run with s/d-d/p. If you want to see potentially huge backstabs you run this.. But you should take improvisation not dagger training, don’t know why everyone always overlooks this amazing trait.
because rng doesnt fit well with how the thief plays, you need to reliable stuff. is reason why most dont take impro.
D/D. People usually fall off their chair, and say “no…no… no no! ~scream~” when they see this build, but it currently is among the best ways to make D/D work, SB is more or less the mainset though and pumps out high dmg in team fights, I’ve been using it a lot myself and I adore the high damage I can cause with D/D when I need to spike someone.
This is what I normally run with s/d-d/p. If you want to see potentially huge backstabs you run this.. But you should take improvisation not dagger training, don’t know why everyone always overlooks this amazing trait.
because rng doesnt fit well with how the thief plays, you need to reliable stuff. is reason why most dont take impro.
10% more damage instead of 5% is quite reliable if you ask me. When are you trying to burst that isn’t coupled with a steal, or while carrying a package? Not that often. Moreover the 10% goes with all weapons. And as a wonderful bonus I can’t count how many times one of the CD resets won me a losing fight.
Didn’t know about that other page sayin that hmm.. Makes no sense though, why give us a trait we can’t use? No other class or trait needs another class to make their trait work.
Didn’t know about that other page sayin that hmm.. Makes no sense though, why give us a trait we can’t use? No other class or trait needs another class to make their trait work.
Didn’t know about that other page sayin that hmm.. Makes no sense though, why give us a trait we can’t use? No other class or trait needs another class to make their trait work.
Didn’t know about that other page sayin that hmm.. Makes no sense though, why give us a trait we can’t use? No other class or trait needs another class to make their trait work.
I actually use it even though I get no dmg increase in WvW. It’s like one of those things that when it doesn’t proc, you don’t even notice but when it does, it’s usually a life safer as all my utilities are of the same type.
If you can’t kill someone with this, then you’re playing it wrong.
I guess I’m playing it wrong. I only play in hotjoins because I don’t have time to look for a party, but even then, I keep getting outnumbered, so I’m forced to run away. It’s not suited for 2v1, nor is it suited to kill certain classes. I keep dying and it’s getting really frustrating. I’ve never seen a video of a meta d/p thief. Can someone make one?
I guess I’m playing it wrong. I only play in hotjoins because I don’t have time to look for a party, but even then, I keep getting outnumbered, so I’m forced to run away. It’s not suited for 2v1, nor is it suited to kill certain classes. I keep dying and it’s getting really frustrating. I’ve never seen a video of a meta d/p thief. Can someone make one?
Correct, to become a really useful thief you should more or less avoid 1v1’s.
In combat you shine most when your team is putting high pressure on a foe, when you can go in with a Basilisk Venom, steal and backstab followed by auto-attacks, heartseekers and head shots, blind if needed as well.
Someone is guarding your homepoint and 2 enemy player shows up there, since you have high mobility you can quickly go there and make quickwork of the squisher of the 2, you can make sure a stomp lands against everything besides ele, which will put the now lone enemy in a 1v2, and no class can handle a 1v2 well when there’s a thief involved.
Mid point is highly crowded and you can safely put pressure there with choking gas, clusterbombs and AA, as a thief no one can really stop you in this situation except other thieves.
- A wild zerker staff ele appears on high ground spamming insanely high damaging AoE’s, an easy takedown for a thief. Same goes with other classes filling a similar role, like LB rangers, necros in lichform (but don’t get hit ) for instance.
NPC stealing in Forest of Niflhel, thieves are specialists at this, combine heartseeker with steal when the npc is at low hp, and then gtfo quickly when half the enemy team will be angry and chase you across the map.
Prevent enemies from taking buffs in Temple of the Silent Storm and also quick and easy cap the buffs yourself if you’re first there.
When your opponents go all in on Mid and/or Close, you may quickly go to cap or decap far depending on what’s best for the situation. If your team gets turned into minced meat at the mid there’s not really much you can do as a thief and you’re better of going for a full cap to buy time for your team to return to mid. While your team is returning, you may engage in 1v1’s at far and use BP, Shadow Shot and Headshot to stay alive and contest or go for a kill to prevent decap, leave if you don’t have any chance; Med Guardians, Necros and Engineers mainly.
Conclusion: Bring the most out of your mobility, support your team with spike dmg and interrupts, sustained SB pressure and don’t engage in 1v1’s unless absolutely necessary.
Thanks guys =D. I used the build provided for d/p as meta. Then I noticed a funny moment (I used necromancer for a while, so each condition makes me think way too much…). That funny moment became an awesome build in which I have managed to land a backstab that has hit (unbelievable amount) 12,341 on a squishy mesmer. In spvp. Thanks again for the meta- made me reread traits in trickery and critical strikes a bit more =). +1’d the people who put thoughts forward to help me get a working build again. =)
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