Advice for my evasion build

Advice for my evasion build

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Posted by: Pentalic.5409

Pentalic.5409

Hello all,

I have been toying around with evasion-based builds for awhile now and have come up with something that seems very viable to me. There is only one problem – Runes of the Mesmer do not work in sPvP.

Here is the build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAsY8alYmSO3dS6E95Ex2jdmTe6fAs9M4qVB-TwAA1CnIkSJlTKjUSpsSNIYRw+j5HA

For those of you too lazy to copy/paste or click links, here’s a run-down:
0/30/0/25/15
Major Traits:
Critical Strikes – Side Strike, Combo Critical Chance, Executioner
Acrobatics – Vigorous Recovery, Quick Recovery
Trickery – Flanking Strikes

Weapons:
S/D and S/P
Sigil of Accuracy and Energy in both sets

Gear:
Mesmer Runes, Soldier’s Amulet (Berserker’s Jewel)

I guess what I’m looking for is advice pertaining to Rune and Sigil choices. The only thing that worries me with this build is that I won’t be critting as much as I hope (even with all the passive bonuses to crit and dual attacks)
The premise of the build is high evasion rate mixed with good damage and survivability. Stealth is not an option for this build, as I will hopefully be able to hold a point.
I was also thinking of switching out Quick Recovery for Assassin’s Reward, but I’m not positive if I need the extra healing or if my initiative regen can equal more evades, which results in less damage taken. It’s really a tradeoff that I’m not too familiar with yet.
Rune possibilities as I see them are: Runes of the Thief (I don’t need the Condition Damage AT ALL, that’s why I’m so hesitant, but the 10% damage on FS/LS is kinda awesome), Runes of Lyssa, Runes of the Eagle. I also considered Runes of the Warrior, but I don’t think the faster endurance regen is worth the crit rate drop…

Any advice?

Edit: Maybe I’ll go with Lyssa runes and use Basilisk Venom like Jumper did… not sure…

2nd Edit: Please refer to my later post showing a slightly different build. I think it has much more potential than this pseudo-Jumper one.

3rd Edit: And by “much more potential” I am not saying that Jumper’s build doesn’t (it clearly does), I am simply stating that it has more potential than a half azsed Jumper build. Weird how the build is now named “The Jumper Build”.

4th Edit: I only bipassed the word filter because it also omits the word “half” before a**.

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(edited by Pentalic.5409)

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Posted by: Arganthium.5638

Arganthium.5638

In other words, Jumper’s build but you took out 5 in Acro to give 5 to Trix?

My advice:
Weaponsets: you need to have dual S/D, in all honesty. S/P, while a good attack, is not mobile like FS is, and that’s what matters if you’re planning on running an evasion build.

You really need to get the extra 3 initiative for weapon swap; weapon swap is critical in this build. Of course, that would mean essentially copying Jumper’s build…

Amulet looks good to me.

Sigils are good, though I’m still not sure about SoA on your Swords.

Runes are… Awful. Please change them. I’d think that Lyssa with Bas Venom would work. Dwayna or Water runes could work. I’d focus on getting a little more Healing Power.

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Posted by: Pentalic.5409

Pentalic.5409

I have been looking into ways to increase the 1s Immobilize from Infiltrator’s Strike to something more (which would give you enough time to FS/LS before they are free) but I can’t seem to up the duration through normal means. I have tried going 30/0/0/25/15 instead of 30 in Critical Strikes for the added Condition Duration, and I have also added Runes of Lyssa for the extra 10%, but the Immobilize seems to stay at 1s not matter what you do…

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Posted by: Pentalic.5409

Pentalic.5409

Alright, I made another version of the evasion build that has been tearing it up in HotJoin. I know this means nothing for tPvP, but it only a testing grounds.
Here is the build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAsYVlYmSO3dS6E95ExmidmTvHgdkittenTBX1KA-TsAA2CnIkRJjTGjMSZsyMIYhxEDA

Once again, for those too lazy to click links, here is a rundown:
0/20/0/20/30
Major Traits:
Critical Strikes – Side Strike, Combo Critical Chance
Acrobatics – Vigorous Recovery, Assassin’s Reward
Trickery – Flanking Strikes, Bountiful Theft, Hastened Replenishment

Weapons:
S/D and Shortbow

Gear:
Balthazar Runes, Knight’s Amulet (Berzerker’s Jewel)

Premise:
High evasion without sacrificing utility. The damage is not as significant as other builds, but you will still do quite a bit…
Balthazar Runes work well with Withdraw, and synergize with the Condition Damage from the Trickery line. It’s also very fun to Withdraw (wait for animation to be almost complete) then shadowstep, steal, infiltrator’s signet, or shadow return to your opponent for a heal, vigor, 4 initiative, and burning. If you Steal, vigor will end up being 25 seconds, which will tie into your next vigor in 15 seconds. Basically, you will always have vigor, you will always have energy, and you will always have initiative. Your damage is based off your initiative, so you will always have damage. You heal for initiative, so you will always be healing. There are 3 stunbreaks on your utility line, so you’ll never be locked down. There is no need for the 2 S/D sets since the weapon swap sigils don’t really have a place in the build, making room for the utility the shortbow brings. You have 21k HP, making you able to take a few hits, even if you are evading pretty much everything.

What do you think?

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Posted by: Pentalic.5409

Pentalic.5409

Wow, after a few games I am HIGHLY impressed with the way this build handles.
Can someone please try it out and tell me I’m not crazy?
I know this build LOOKS crazy and all… I might be crazy…

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