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Posted by: Seras.5702

Seras.5702

I’m a fairly new thief but I was looking for ways to stealth underwater and it seems you can only achieve stealth through traits. Am I missing something? Harpoon gun & spear both have stealth #1 attacks….yet I can’t generate a smoke field or stealth with them and all my stealth-creating deception skills are not available underwater.

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Posted by: Necrochild.1497

Necrochild.1497

I never understood why blinding powder was restricted from underwater use.

And on the topic of underwater combat, the options for condition builds leave much to be desired.

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Posted by: OIIIIIO.7825

OIIIIIO.7825

You can also use Hide in Shadows under water
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hide_in_Shadows

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and refuses to spare the life in return for the surrender at discretion (unconditional surrender)
of a vanquished opponent.

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Posted by: Stooperdale.3560

Stooperdale.3560

Yes some classes are gutted of skills underwater. Trait lines suffer with the skills. The sad answer is to just get used to it.

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Posted by: Seras.5702

Seras.5702

Ah, Hide in Shadows…forgot about that one. So I gotta burn my heal skill just to get stealth. Guess it’s really only to be used defensively then underwater?

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Posted by: OIIIIIO.7825

OIIIIIO.7825

I didn’t mention this earlier but there is one more, however it’s hardly worth mentioning.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vanish_in_the_Deep

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and refuses to spare the life in return for the surrender at discretion (unconditional surrender)
of a vanquished opponent.

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Posted by: Seras.5702

Seras.5702

I didn’t mention this earlier but there is one more, however it’s hardly worth mentioning.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vanish_in_the_Deep

I lol’d tho

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Posted by: RedSpectrum.1975

RedSpectrum.1975

Just thought I’d drop my two cents, if you’re a thief, just stay out of the water, period, in terms of PvP, unless you -really- need to go into it, just avoid it

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Posted by: Doggie.3184

Doggie.3184

Thief underwater combat setup is still in beta. No ETA on when they’ll complete it.

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Posted by: tigirius.9014

tigirius.9014

What I don’t like is not only are there hardly any stealth options for underwater combat but we also have to switch out our traits manually to even begin to function normally with the weapons we have to use underwater. Why don’t we have a separate trait spec for underwater combat like we do for our weapons that autoswitch when we are in swim mode.

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Posted by: Azraelle.1683

Azraelle.1683

SOON there will be NO stealth on surface as well.

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Posted by: Seras.5702

Seras.5702

What I don’t like is not only are there hardly any stealth options for underwater combat but we also have to switch out our traits manually to even begin to function normally with the weapons we have to use underwater. Why don’t we have a separate trait spec for underwater combat like we do for our weapons that autoswitch when we are in swim mode.

This is a broader argument that should be made for all professions. I agree. So many builds are based on skills that aren’t available underwater, that it cheapens underwater combat. Take your traited FT engi underwater and you’re just a dude with a harpoon gun. Take your stealthy thief underwater and you’re just a dude with a sharp stick.

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

Just thought I’d drop my two cents, if you’re a thief, just stay out of the water, period, in terms of PvP, unless you -really- need to go into it, just avoid it

Depends on your build. I run signet of malice + 3 signets with blood sigil on harpoon gun. It’s pretty solid if you’re also tanky. (spam the underwater unload)

Underwater flanking strike with the spear is also pretty solid. (managed to overcome the regen of my regen bunker warrior in sPvP)

All is vain.

(edited by Excalibur.9748)

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Posted by: Kaon.7192

Kaon.7192

Don’t forget LITERALLY no AoE’s asides from the 3 target cleave from Spear…
Ok, maybe not if you count Throw Gunk… But come on…