Guild Wars 2

I know the first thing you guys will all say is just stealth to remove conditions but I need to address this before I get those comments: I am not running a stealth build, I am running s/d and I truly think we need more condi removal on our class. Especially with the large condi meta we are in it almost renders the set useless when someone can sit and spam condi on you because you cant fight it without stealth. Are there ways to remove condi efficiently and effectively on a thief without relying on stealth that I just don’t know about and if not, can we please get more removal options added to thief so that we aren’t all forced to play the dp meta in order to be able to even have a fighting chance against a condi spec?

the set is usless in team play even without condi problems. :/ aoe and bounce/ricochet dmg alone is going to own that build. you need the misdirection from stealth or atleast PW evade

Lyssa, shadow return, withdraw, and #2 on sword

thanks for the info. quite helpful

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vYEQNAsYVl0Mp0plPxzJ8PRRwVwpePI7YNrWBa2pgrWF-zUyAYrAhvApIgkFICDQ6rIasVxioxqrxUuER1kC4pJAA-w

another question would be is this a good build to use or is there stuff I should change in order to make it more effective? and changes can be anything (food buffs, traits, ect.)

Saffron-scented Poultry Soup is also really good when combined with Withdraw for condition removal (Withdraw’s movement-based condis get removed first, so the food usually removes something nasty).

Quick Recovery is garbage. Use Pain Response.

so something more like this?
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vYEQNAsYVl0Mp0plPxzJ8PRRwVwpePI7YNrWBa2pgryH-zUyAYrAhvApIgkFIiAQ6rIasVxioxqrxUuER1ECA7EA-w

^ Yes, that’s good. You have really strong and reliable condition removal now. A couple other tweaks you could make:

1. Thrill of the Crime plus deep Acrobatics gives you basically perma-Swiftness, especially if you use turn-around + Withdraw to move around. You could replace Signet of Shadows with another utility skill if you wanted to.
2. Sigil of Perception is a little weak. You already have enough crit chance in your build, so perhaps consider Bloodlust instead.

Other than that, the only thing I’d do is maybe tweak the accessories a bit to get more Toughness for soaking hits. Armor of 2080 is pretty squishy. Although if you’re comfortable with that, more power to you.

If we had “Remove 1 condition on dodge.” nobody would be kittening about thief condition cleanse.

Didn’t really mean to kitten, just was looking t see what others knew about condi removal options. Thanks to all who have contributed. you have been extremely helpful