Guild Wars 2

This is a PvE-specific question.

Recently, when I use Shadow Refuge in a dungeon or in combat and I walk out or the AoE expires, the stealth will expire early (like instantly) and I’ll get the Revealed debuff. (And I didn’t attack at all)

This was a huge problem when I was trying to stealth my party in a dungeon, and we ended up getting our faced pounded by some mobs with fast knock-down.

Kurow.6973:

…and where did you hear this?

God, why, why…

He did not “hear” this, it’s how it is.
When you exit Shadow Refuge’s circle you are immediately given revealed debuff, regardless.
You could have 10s stealth left from other skills that exiting any Shadow Refuge circle will remove any stealth and give revealed, which proves this.

This is quite a problem because other Thieves can drop your stealth if you happen to pass by when they cast it.

This isn’t a bug I think – it happens when you’re in combat and (I’m not sure of this) are too close to the enemy.

I could be wrong though

Don’t attack or move away from the field while the circle is still there.

I have also been having problems with stealth. Not just shadow refuge but all the stealth skills seem 2 break instantly sometimes. I don’t know how to reproduce the bug yet but it’s happening often.

There is a bug with the trait hidden thief with guns I have noticed. With daggers or swords if you steal you gain stealth without breaking. With guns however for whatever reason with this trait when you steal you stealth and then immediately shoot once and break it. I tested it both in and out of combat with it and it happens every time.

Maybe there is a bug with range weapons causing you to break stealth on targets you have selected if you have a range weapon in use. I would test it with other stealth abilities but I am too tired right now, maybe someone else can test it out.

novaz.4965:

Don’t attack or move away from the field while the circle is still there.

Shadow Refuge is suppose to apply 3 seconds of stealth with each pulse.
It’s intended design that I be allowed to move out of the circle before the “refuge” aoe expires.

DreamOfACure.4382:

novaz.4965:

Don’t attack or move away from the field while the circle is still there.

Shadow Refuge is suppose to apply 3 seconds of stealth with each pulse.
It’s intended design that I be allowed to move out of the circle before the “refuge” aoe expires.

…and where did you hear this?

Move out of refuge before the circle expires you will be exposed. Working as intended, its why people try to knock you out of shadow refuge in PvP.

Kurow.6973:

…and where did you hear this?

Let me respond with my own question:

Where did you learn to analyze game mechanics?

Shadow Refuge is a skill designed to be used for party members on top of use in solo-play.

Are my party members expected to stay still and wait too? IN THE MIDST OF COMBAT?
Hell to that.

I played my Thief for several months casting it and it working fine when members moved in/out before the Refuge expired. I stopped and made an alt for two months, came back, and this BS was occurring.

If this was a specific nerf, I would love a link to the Update Notes for the patch it came in.

DreamOfACure.4382:

Kurow.6973:

…and where did you hear this?

Let me respond with my own question:

Where did you learn to analyze game mechanics?

Shadow Refuge is a skill designed to be used for party members on top of use in solo-play.

Are my party members expected to stay still and wait too? IN THE MIDST OF COMBAT?
Hell to that.

I played my Thief for several months casting it and it working fine when members moved in/out before the Refuge expired. I stopped and made an alt for two months, came back, and this BS was occurring.

If this was a specific nerf, I would love a link to the Update Notes for the patch it came in.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates/October_2012
Shadow Refuge: This skill’s stealth removal tripwire has been updated to properly match the skill’s effects.

Stealth removal tripwire
There you go, the “specific nerf”.

Gwalchgwn.1659:

DreamOfACure.4382:

Kurow.6973:

…and where did you hear this?

Let me respond with my own question:

Where did you learn to analyze game mechanics?

Shadow Refuge is a skill designed to be used for party members on top of use in solo-play.

Are my party members expected to stay still and wait too? IN THE MIDST OF COMBAT?
Hell to that.

I played my Thief for several months casting it and it working fine when members moved in/out before the Refuge expired. I stopped and made an alt for two months, came back, and this BS was occurring.

If this was a specific nerf, I would love a link to the Update Notes for the patch it came in.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Game_updates/October_2012
Shadow Refuge: This skill’s stealth removal tripwire has been updated to properly match the skill’s effects.

Stealth removal tripwire
There you go, the “specific nerf”.

In other words it’s working as intended and to be honest, it’s one of our most well-designed utilities.

DreamOfACure.4382:

Kurow.6973:

…and where did you hear this?

Let me respond with my own question:

Where did you learn to analyze game mechanics?

Shadow Refuge is a skill designed to be used for party members on top of use in solo-play.

Are my party members expected to stay still and wait too? IN THE MIDST OF COMBAT?
Hell to that.

I played my Thief for several months casting it and it working fine when members moved in/out before the Refuge expired. I stopped and made an alt for two months, came back, and this BS was occurring.

If this was a specific nerf, I would love a link to the Update Notes for the patch it came in.

Tell me how stupid you look right now for trying to act arrogant.

I love how you ask me that question, when you, yourself are the ignorant one doing exactly what you asked me without doing any research at all.

Incurafy.6329:

In other words it’s working as intended and to be honest, it’s one of our most well-designed utilities.

Probably one of the most balanced and well designed skill in the game.