Guild Wars 2

Just looking for some ideas, I really like to try and use all the tools I have available and I feel like I under utilize this skill. Granted I never use body shot either, but I am not sure there is any helping that ability, at least for my build.

Any thoughts?

I hardly use it either. If you are next to someone and can hit them I always prefer C&D, even if it’s to run away.

I honestly can’t recall the last time I used this skill.

I’d much rather use C&D than this. Your dagger hit needs to connect for the shadow step anyway…so, you’re better off using C&D followed by P 1 after getting some distance.

What is shadow strike? Guessing it’s not a D/D weapon skill…

swinsk.6410:

What is shadow strike? Guessing it’s not a D/D weapon skill…

It’s the P/D dual skill. Quickly hit with the dagger than shadowstep away and shoot for a second hit.

swinsk.6410:

What is shadow strike? Guessing it’s not a D/D weapon skill…

Shadow strike is the p/d 3 that should be swapped with shadow shot the d/p 3 but I can only imagine that the Anet feature crews got confused because the names are similar which is why we have the current silliness.

Pretty much the only times I use it is to quickly step out of AoE or to open some distance when immobilized. Its usefulness has been severely reduced since the nerf, but it was necessary as it was definitely a bit overpowered before that. Body shot is still in a much worse state though. I literally never use it outside of the occasional misclick.

On a side note, can anyone confirm if it can be used to escape Guardian’s Ring of Warding? I can’t seem to recall.

It’s an I-win button against melee classes as Pistol/dagger-thief. Just spam it till they are dead. Pretty lame but unbeatable for non-thieves.

Teabaker.9524:

It’s an I-win button against melee classes as Pistol/dagger-thief. Just spam it till they are dead. Pretty lame but unbeatable for non-thieves.

Using shadow strike 15-25 times to kill someone, its damage is super low, doesn’t sound like a very effective I win button to me.

Kaon, what was the nerf to the ability, how was it before?

Swap it to close the gap it give it stealth. Actually give it stealth.

Its not a bad skill design-wise, but the current meta makes it undesirable.

Assuming P/D was designed in a way to be functional without sneak attack, there are plenty of situations where Shadow strike would come in very handy. You would have to situationally decide whether to CnD or Shadow strike.

Unfortunately however, the current meta makes P/D almost worthless without using Sneak attack as often as possible.

Niim.9260:

Teabaker.9524:

It’s an I-win button against melee classes as Pistol/dagger-thief. Just spam it till they are dead. Pretty lame but unbeatable for non-thieves.

Using shadow strike 15-25 times to kill someone, its damage is super low, doesn’t sound like a very effective I win button to me.

Kaon, what was the nerf to the ability, how was it before?

But it is. Try it >→ You get enough damage from poisons and autoattack.

Niim.9260:

Teabaker.9524:

It’s an I-win button against melee classes as Pistol/dagger-thief. Just spam it till they are dead. Pretty lame but unbeatable for non-thieves.

Using shadow strike 15-25 times to kill someone, its damage is super low, doesn’t sound like a very effective I win button to me.

Kaon, what was the nerf to the ability, how was it before?

The shadow step used to occur whether or not you landed the dagger strike. Which gave it immense utility as a gap opener (and closer when combined with about face button) and escape mechanism when spammed.

Insanely useful for insta breaking backstabbers. Can’t back stab me if you can’t get to me, oh your up against me again 3 bye bye

WereDragon.6083:

Insanely useful for insta breaking backstabbers. Can’t back stab me if you can’t get to me, oh your up against me again 3 bye bye

It’s actually really fun against BS thieves. Let em stealth, backtrack for a second or 2 so they think you’re an idiot (assuming they started in front of you), then shadow strike. 9 times out of ten, you’re out of melee range and did some damage to them while they were stealth. It’s amazing.

I think that ANet should swap the places of Shadow Shot and Shadow Strike.

ZLE.8293:

I think that ANet should swap the places of Shadow Shot and Shadow Strike.

No!!!

What they need to do is come up with a better skill effect than the current shadow strike.

You WANT shadow shot on a melee main hand. Shadow shot is fine as is.

They don’t need to make P/D even easier to play than it already is.

evilapprentice.6379:

WereDragon.6083:

Insanely useful for insta breaking backstabbers. Can’t back stab me if you can’t get to me, oh your up against me again 3 bye bye

It’s actually really fun against BS thieves. Let em stealth, backtrack for a second or 2 so they think you’re an idiot (assuming they started in front of you), then shadow strike. 9 times out of ten, you’re out of melee range and did some damage to them while they were stealth. It’s amazing.

I still prefer C&D in this case. It does more damage, gives you stealth and then you can re-position and sneak attack them.

Shadow strike breaks Immobilize…..great vs the 100 blades warriors.

Adaneshade.2409:

Shadow strike breaks Immobilize…..great vs the 100 blades warriors.

Is this a troll?!?

Oh. No, I never use P/D, so no, I never use shadow strike. Didn’t even know what the name referred to until several posts in. literally the only thief skill I didn’t know the name of.

I use the reverse one all the time, though. D/P. because pistol off hand is awesome. and pistol main hand sucks.

Kurow.6973:

Adaneshade.2409:

Shadow strike breaks Immobilize…..great vs the 100 blades warriors.

Is this a troll?!?

No, you can simply autoattack and melee only build to death using that each time they get in range with P/D lol

Adaneshade.2409:

Kurow.6973:

Adaneshade.2409:

Shadow strike breaks Immobilize…..great vs the 100 blades warriors.

Is this a troll?!?

No, you can simply autoattack and melee only build to death using that each time they get in range with P/D lol

Indeed. It’s lame but it works 80% of the time ever time.

Adaneshade.2409:

Kurow.6973:

Adaneshade.2409:

Shadow strike breaks Immobilize…..great vs the 100 blades warriors.

Is this a troll?!?

No, you can simply autoattack and melee only build to death using that each time they get in range with P/D lol

You realize that a 100B warrior doesn’t rely on immobilize to begin with…correct?

So, I ask again…is this a troll?!?

what does it rely on, then? knockdown? those have cooldowns that are just as long as the cooldowns on stun break utilities. and since greatsword doesn’t have a knockdown on it, the warrior likely won’t get off more than one knockdown.

reikken.4961:

what does it rely on, then? knockdown? those have cooldowns that are just as long as the cooldowns on stun break utilities. and since greatsword doesn’t have a knockdown on it, the warrior likely won’t get off more than one knockdown.

I hear it’s difficult to play a warrior properly. Especially when hitting that weapon change hotkey. God, it’s a difficult life swapping weapons and attunements (for ele) in this game. It’s so hard. Such a bad mechanic that forces a player to only use one specific tool set.

Never played a good warrior…have you? Stick to fighting the easy to dodge 3 button heroes. Apparently that’s all warriors are capable of.

your post said a lot of nothing and didn’t address my post at all

reikken.4961:

your post said a lot of nothing and didn’t address my post at all

Is that so? Never played a warrior…have you?

I see sarcasm doesn’t work with you because it’s too difficult for you to grasp that concept.

k nvm, you just trollin. I’ll leave you to do your thing

reikken.4961:

k nvm, you just trollin. I’ll leave you to do your thing

No one’s trolling. Was a serious question…and your complete avoidance already answered my question. Thanks!

Spike unsuspecting targets with Shadow Strike > Steal(Mug) > Shadow Strike.

Funny when it works, since Shadow Strike hits decently. I think it does need something else.

Also, the D/P Shadow Shot is also a little meh. Speed up that projectile to headshot speed and you got yourself a deal on that one as well.