Guild Wars 2

Hello I just started playing Guild Wars 2 a couple weeks ago and I decided to roll a thief since I used to play a rogue in world of warcraft. I love the thiefs abilities and play style but I hear more and more people telling me that thiefs are becoming to weak due to nerfs and are becoming inferior to other professions. I am currently level 30 and want to know should I continue with my thief? or would it just be a waste of my time when I could level a more powerful profession? Any advice or opinions on the matter would be appreciated.

Thieves are fine. We’ve been hit by a few nerfs, but they haven’t really hurt the overall viability of a thief, rather just the viability of certain skills. Dancing Dagger, for example, is just about entirely useless to use after the nerf.

If you like the class, continue to play it. Arenanet won’t nerf the class into uselessness entirely. They’re better than that at balancing.

No mater what the power level of thieves are relative to the rest of the professions there will always be people calling for nerfs. It’s just the plight of stealth classes in MMOs. Even if thieves were the weakest class in the game, someone would be able to kill an up-leveled noobie in WvW who would make a forum post about how unfair stealth is.

If you like the stealth archetype just stick with it for the entire roller coaster ride of power because it always happens.

Thief’s will be good as long as anet dosen’t take away something that really is what makes this class. I see alot of posts about how steal should b e nerfed and how we shouldn’t be able to stealth and such. but take away that and you are really just taking away a primary part of a proffession, and the change would be so sever that it would change everything. But i belive in anet so hopefully that will never happen

Sword/Pistol is still viable, even if then nerfed PW without any good reason. Pistol/Pistol is kind of awful at the moment but I hear it’s getting a fix. DD is still one of the best options for thieves and still generates so much crying, which is really funny considering all the nerfs. As for the rest, I’m not sure.

D/P thieves are also good. Fought a backstab thief recently and he was missing all his attacks. Black Powder and Shadow Shot FTW!

Stiv.1820:

It’s just the plight of stealth classes in MMOs. Even if thieves were the weakest class in the game, someone would be able to kill an up-leveled noobie in WvW who would make a forum post about how unfair stealth is.

truer words have never been spoken

To OP….
I speak entirely from PvP(not WvW or PvE) point of view:Thief is good…But…
Since you come from the -other-game,you might have problems with the lack of cast bar and especially the fact that you don’t have global cooldown.If you mash buttons you will have problems with wasting initiative.I realize that you already played a couple of weeks,but in PvE you cannot go wrong,but in PvP where mistakes are quite fatal you might need to practice for a while.Also WoW is quite strong on add-ons and macros,which are very helpful .Here is different matter(at least for now).

Thanks for all of the responses, Im gonna stick with the thief. Im pretty good at PvE and rarely die, however in PvP I usually get just as many deaths as I do kills, so I need to work on that.

Thieves are good in PvP from what I hear, but not at all very good in PvE. Very squishy and not many support skills, and the DPS, while pretty good, is not good enough compared to for example an Elementalist that brings a lot more support abilities.

(PvE in my case is deep fractals and explorer dungeons, they are very good in events due to spammable AoE).

Originalname.2843:

Hello I just started playing Guild Wars 2 a couple weeks ago and I decided to roll a thief since I used to play a rogue in world of warcraft. I love the thiefs abilities and play style but I hear more and more people telling me that thiefs are becoming to weak due to nerfs and are becoming inferior to other professions. I am currently level 30 and want to know should I continue with my thief? or would it just be a waste of my time when I could level a more powerful profession? Any advice or opinions on the matter would be appreciated.

The only thieves that seem to be complaining about the thief “nerfs” are the ones that run the uber glass cannon builds (mainly the D/D thieves). Condition thieves, imo, are worse than the glass cannons.

My only issue with my class at this point is stealth bugs. They need to fix how sometimes our stealth lasts twice as long and how sometimes when we stealth against NPCs to get out of combat we in fact are bugged in combat so our health regen never triggers.

Aside from that I love being a thief, best class to play if you like to move around.

I’ve been using Dagger/Pistol thief for a while (rarely use Dagger/Dagger except when I fight Dredge) but now I’ve started to use Pistol/Dagger in WvWvW. Anyone know a good build for P/D?

My advice is that you wait for the next game build supposedly on the 14th. We should see an improvement to P/P but may get the nerf bat to the face regarding backstab builds. After the nerfs to this class so far I am concerned that they focus on the wrong issues. Stealth bugs and culling issues should be dealt with before any nerf to our class…

Thieves in PvE can do some good damage. We are squishy but not so much that we don’t contribute just as much as the next guy. I am no more of a floor mat than any other player either. From what I’ve experienced D/D Backstab or Bleed builds have the highest damage output within our available builds.

@insaneshadow 0/0/30/20/20 seems to work well. Heal while stealthed and gear condition damage and duration.

Blood~

@bloodgruve Oooo, I’ll try that out, thanks =)

I still land 10-15K back stabs. Ask the people I do that to if thieves are still good.

Due almost entirely to Stealth-related bugs/issues, Thieves are a bit too fragile in PvE and a bit too OP in PvP, but they’re fun and playable regardless.

PvE Issues – Stealth frequently fails to get you out of danger like it should (doesn’t mitigate incoming attacks, doesn’t dump aggro, ends too quickly)

PvP Issues – Rendering issues make hard-hitting attacks too hard to avoid or mitigate, overly good trait synergy with stealth/burst combos.

That’s my experience anyway.

Stiv.1820:

No mater what the power level of thieves are relative to the rest of the professions there will always be people calling for nerfs. It’s just the plight of stealth classes in MMOs. Even if thieves were the weakest class in the game, someone would be able to kill an up-leveled noobie in WvW who would make a forum post about how unfair stealth is.

If you like the stealth archetype just stick with it for the entire roller coaster ride of power because it always happens.

Actually this isn’t quite true. Aika online is a good example of how a balanced stealth class can exist.

Krathalos.3461:

…Dancing Dagger, for example, is just about entirely useless to use after the nerf…

…Arenanet won’t nerf the class into uselessness entirely. They’re better than that at balancing….

While your first statement is absolutely true, I’m so far not convinced about the second one, partially because statements like the first one are true.

Besides that, at OP, if you like the class and it’s gameplay, go for it.
If you don’t have as much fun playing other classes, then whats the point in doing so anyway.