Guild Wars 2

Do you think it is OP for PvE, WvW, or sPvP/tPvP?

Do you think shortbow deserves any nerfs, for example a range reduction?

No.

But one time I did see a D/P + Shortbow Glass Cannon Thief kite a Glass Cannon Sword/Focus + Staff Mesmer, by using a Shortbow and LoS’ing the Mesmer and his clones using trees, when the Mesmer was at half health the Thief then proceeded to burst and down the Mesmer, it was funny

Shortbow is a great utility weapon. It’s really useful thanks to the initiative system, cooldowns are shared between both weapon sets, so the thing a Thief should look for on his second set is utility and Shortbow is perfect to bring anything the primary set can’t.

It’s great for supporting a team with combo finishers and weakness, and tagging opponents in a event, but it should never be your primary set as it doesn’t cause enough damage for it.

So no, it doesn’t need any kind of nerf. It’s probably the most balanced weapon we got and it could even get a damage boost and still be fine.

And the example of “range reduction” you gave makes zero sense (it’s like you just wanted to start a discussion about something random for the sake of it and right now I feel like feeding the troll answering here, if it wasn’t because I know you’ve posted around here before I would think that). Why nerf the range (which is 900, with the Thief having zero access to 1200 range weapons) makes any sense? Even Rangers can throw axes with their arms at the same distance Thieves can shoot arrows with a bow!

Edit: When I was looking your past messages to verify you wasn’t just trolling (I had curiosiry given the absurd topic and the short opening post) I found this.

Excalibur.9748:

SharadSun.3089:

Oh man… so much QQ here.

Thieves are still the single most reliable appliers of Weakness, which is now extremely powerful (a flat 12.5% incoming damage decrease: 25% of their hits deal only 50% damage). Shortbow is a liiiittle bit overpowered now, and using an init-regen power/crit build will contribute infinitely more to teamfights now.

Pray tell. How is shortbow OP?

Why did you start this thread? You just wanted to troll the trolls?

Lokheit.7943:

Shortbow is a great utility weapon. It’s really useful thanks to the initiative system, cooldowns are shared between both weapon sets, so the thing a Thief should look for on his second set is utility and Shortbow is perfect to bring anything the primary set can’t.

It’s great for supporting a team with combo finishers and weakness, and tagging opponents in a event, but it should never be your primary set as it doesn’t cause enough damage for it.

So no, it doesn’t need any kind of nerf. It’s probably the most balanced weapon we got and it could even get a damage boost and still be fine.

And the example of “range reduction” you gave makes zero sense (it’s like you just wanted to start a discussion about something random for the sake of it and right now I feel like feeding the troll answering here). Why nerf the range (which is 900, with the Thief having zero access to 1200 range weapons) makes any sense? Even Rangers can throw axes with their arms at the same distance Thieves can shoot arrows with a bow!

there’s a possible nerf on range of #2 skill from 1200 to 900 tomorrow. gathering opinion to see whether the nerf would be justified or not.

I don’t want to give my opinion on the matter because I <3 shortbow. You know it.

Excalibur.9748:

Lokheit.7943:

Shortbow is a great utility weapon. It’s really useful thanks to the initiative system, cooldowns are shared between both weapon sets, so the thing a Thief should look for on his second set is utility and Shortbow is perfect to bring anything the primary set can’t.

It’s great for supporting a team with combo finishers and weakness, and tagging opponents in a event, but it should never be your primary set as it doesn’t cause enough damage for it.

So no, it doesn’t need any kind of nerf. It’s probably the most balanced weapon we got and it could even get a damage boost and still be fine.

And the example of “range reduction” you gave makes zero sense (it’s like you just wanted to start a discussion about something random for the sake of it and right now I feel like feeding the troll answering here). Why nerf the range (which is 900, with the Thief having zero access to 1200 range weapons) makes any sense? Even Rangers can throw axes with their arms at the same distance Thieves can shoot arrows with a bow!

there’s a possible nerf on range of #2 skill from 1200 to 900 tomorrow. gathering opinion to see whether the nerf would be justified or not.

I don’t want to give my opinion on the matter because I <3 shortbow. You know it.

Ok so that’s the reason. About the possible range reduction, we will see, I hope not. It won’t be that big of a difference honestly as Cluster Bomb at 1200 is kinda useless because of its speed, but at least it gives us something to press in those situations.

SB is fine as it is, I was fearing they would destroy Lotus Poison (slamming hard any support build), but if the preview on gw2hub was correct instead of just a small list with some, but not all of the changes we can breath.

Rok.5260:

No.

But one time I did see a D/P + Shortbow Glass Cannon Thief kite a Glass Cannon Sword/Focus + Staff Mesmer, by using a Shortbow and LoS’ing the Mesmer and his clones using trees, when the Mesmer was at half health the Thief then proceeded to burst and down the Mesmer, it was funny

I don’t see how that’s even possible… Focus skills reflect. Every shot the thief would put out (even cluster bomb) would just reflect back to the thief since ever shot would, at the very least, bounce to a warden. Mesmer has more hp than thief too so they would easily out survive that harass. If there weren’t any wardens to save the mes from the tiny hits, they could just drop curtain for some more free reflect. A mesmer with a focus should be invulnerable vs a sbow thief.

Meh, shortbow could use a buff tbh.

only spot cluster bomb range is OP is if your defending a keep or tower you can shoot over the wall with out even getting close to it. so only like 2 – 3 skills can hit the thief or… arrow cart lol

kitten it, this nerf really hurts. So I guess the shortbow was OP??