Guild Wars 2

So i’ve just levelled my second thief to 80 (female human t3 ^^) and was about to gear her out in full valkyrie again (same as my other thief) when a guildie told me not to.

Apparently valkryie armour, with zerk wep+trinkets is ‘outdated’ and I should be going full glass?

I will keep the 2/6/6/0/0 setup regardless of what armour i have for executioner+shadows rejuvination.

Any suggestions? should i go valk armour again or is berserker the best option now that i’m an experienced theif?

edit: forgot to mention i’ll be running d/d and sb

Outdated? Lol? I used valk armor with cavalier daggers/amu and rest is zerk. I still do tons of damage and crit often enough. I’d much rather have the added survivability of valk armor. Really just preference though.

Get the minimum amount of armor and health you need to survive and from there go full out zerker. Everyone has a different minimum based on skills/playstyle. Only you can know what your minimum is.

Depends what you are doing. Keep in mind with 10k hp you are extremely squishy i would recommend getting some Valkyrie pieces to survive when you burst in a team fight. Forget about armor. You are a theif and not warrior hp makes a bigger difference.
I dont know if you’re playing pvp or wvw, however in wvw if all you are going to do is take out stragglers and scouts then full glass cannon would be good. If you are also going with the mainzerg you need some hp minimum 15k. You will thank me when you get hit for 8k izerker or something like that and live trough it

Actually with 10k hp shadow rejuvenation is not going to save you so you might as well go 100% glass cannon with traits 6,6,0,0,2

Now that I think about it, it also depends on what weapon set you’re using. If you use d/p, you can generally be more glass cannon and get away with it because of the blinds it offers. With D/D however, you need more survivability b/c you are much more susceptible to damage. Since you say you’re running D/D (good man :P), I personally suggest mixing some cavalier into your set like I said in my previous post.

I run Valkyrie armor, zerker trinkets and weapons and I do fine in WvW. D/D and SB here too. I sometimes run Hidden Killer for that guaranteed crit on backstab, but that just depends on how I feel that day.

I need that health to be honest, because if I fail to dodge an eviscerate I’m done for without it :p

Toughness > Vitality IMO. Coming from someone who used valk armor + zerk everything else for over a year and recently switched to cavaliers. The amount of healing in your kit and toughness scale with eachother in a sense, and since 90% of theives use shadow’s rejuvination, its a kitten good stat on us. with the 100power + 70 vitality food I use (pure damage and doge food too expensive, but better) I only have like 12k hp but don’t feel squishy at all with my toughness. Mixing valk and cav is a good idea, definitely better than full valk, but if you’re going to choose one: toughness all day!

Valky gives that extra HP cushion at the start of a a fight but the longer the fight goes on, you’d get a lot more out of your heals with toughness.

Valky is great if you have troubles dealing with condis since conditions ignore amour. It also has power as main stat so your backstabs will be higher than with full cavalier.

If you are used to full valky, you’ll feel really squishy in zerk gear.

thanks for the feedback guys.

I will be playing wvw roaming with dd+sb. Probably be either solo/duo/trio mostly solo i would imagine.

think i’ll try full zerk with 2 cavalier accessories+knights ring and see how i like it.

edit: i’ve tried full glass cannon 6 6 2 0 0 and i didn’t like it. Its very good for team fights when i get in burst and get out, but no sustain and no condi cleanse is a nightmare

Loki.2894:

thanks for the feedback guys.

I will be playing wvw roaming with dd+sb. Probably be either solo/duo/trio mostly solo i would imagine.

think i’ll try full zerk with 2 cavalier accessories+knights ring and see how i like it.

edit: i’ve tried full glass cannon 6 6 2 0 0 and i didn’t like it. Its very good for team fights when i get in burst and get out, but no sustain and no condi cleanse is a nightmare

I would personally never recommend full glass unless you want to scare the fk out of people. The current d/d build (26600) is pretty much the best way to go for general fighting. Full zerk armor is too squishy imo, but it may be different for you.

Quakeman.9378:

Loki.2894:

thanks for the feedback guys.

I will be playing wvw roaming with dd+sb. Probably be either solo/duo/trio mostly solo i would imagine.

think i’ll try full zerk with 2 cavalier accessories+knights ring and see how i like it.

edit: i’ve tried full glass cannon 6 6 2 0 0 and i didn’t like it. Its very good for team fights when i get in burst and get out, but no sustain and no condi cleanse is a nightmare

I would personally never recommend full glass unless you want to scare the fk out of people. The current d/d build (26600) is pretty much the best way to go for general fighting. Full zerk armor is too squishy imo, but it may be different for you.

Unless the player wants to fight heavily outnumbered, full zerk 66200 is okay. It’s pretty good for small fights, I even zerg with it and unless we completely wipe as a whole zerg, I usually live longer than others. SoM + cluster bomb is just amazing.

Jayden Ennok.3687:

Unless the player wants to fight heavily outnumbered, full zerk 66200 is okay. It’s pretty good for small fights, I even zerg with it and unless we completely wipe as a whole zerg, I usually live longer than others. SoM + cluster bomb is just amazing.

Most of my fighst usually end up/start out outnumbered, and if I used full glass I wouldn;t even have a chance. But yes, full glass does have its uses I just don’t recommend it for general use.