Guild Wars 2

With the new heal skill incoming healing skill Skelk Venom and the buff to initiative regen I have decided to craft a P/D venom share build to work well with small groups in WvW.

Here is the build

Take a peek, I’m looking for feedback, and I’ll be testing this build out once the next patch arrives so I’ll give feedback on how it goes.

In case link doesn’t work:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYEQNAqYFFRnbNZai/cig7hRh6T9KQWtH00mxE-j0CBoOERjUABjWAimOhZSFRjtgJI1Mht8Ja6GYKWER1eEFRrWKAYWWB-w

Check messiah’s Panicond P/D build here is very similar to your’s (venom share build don’t have any other good build anyway) with a lot of comments and videos.He has done a wonderful job.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/The-Panicond-build-P-D/first#post3263631

Might want to remove one venom for a stunbreaker. When fighting other players, atleast take 1 stunbreaker to be safe :P

If you switch out Potent Poison for Mug you will have my PvE build xD Mug is also a better choice, you can deal enough poison with dagger and if you use the spider venom, poison duration shouldn’t be a problem at all

You can also put the last 10 points you spent on getting Residual Venom in another traitline, perhaps trickery to get bountiful theft or in acrobatics for vigor on dodge. I understand the extra venom stack is nice but a well timed basilisk venom share won’t care if it has 1 or 2 stacks, the person who get hit will die in teamplay :P

Undeadkemea.4865:

Might want to remove one venom for a stunbreaker. When fighting other players, atleast take 1 stunbreaker to be safe :P

If you switch out Potent Poison for Mug you will have my PvE build xD Mug is also a better choice, you can deal enough poison with dagger and if you use the spider venom, poison duration shouldn’t be a problem at all

You can also put the last 10 points you spent on getting Residual Venom in another traitline, perhaps trickery to get bountiful theft or in acrobatics for vigor on dodge. I understand the extra venom stack is nice but a well timed basilisk venom share won’t care if it has 1 or 2 stacks, the person who get hit will die in teamplay :P

Thanks for the advice, I have switched out the poison venom for shadowstep, and changed Potent Poison for Mug as well although I will be keeping Residual Venom where it is.

Hawkeye.9687:

Check messiah’s Panicond P/D build here is very similar to your’s (venom share build don’t have any other good build anyway) with a lot of comments and videos.He has done a wonderful job.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/The-Panicond-build-P-D/first#post3263631

Yeah just a few things I don’t like in his build, I find the 3x 15% bleed duration to be much for effective then Rune of the Adventure, and I prefer my sigil load out over his.

But thank you

you cant stack condition duration more than 100% so your bleed in your build is above 100% (45+10+86) (while mine is 95%)
so change runes

and i use centaur runes for aoe swiftness so change thrill of crime as you dont need fury and 1 stack of might is bit low

so galde more ppl starting to use venoms

I actually think the 15% bleed runes are missing their purpose on your build. You will not be doing the best 1v1 damage anyway, which is what bleeds are about (even with Ricochet your AoE is not that good). This build is about making the group you run with that much stronger as a whole. Your 45% longer bleeds won’t help too much with that.

I play a solo P/D build, so no venoms, only for roaming. I just switched my old 15% bleed runes out for runes of the traveler. 25% movement speed without investing a utility is just too good to pass up on. Besides, you still get a nice 10% boost to all conditions. Along with 10 in DA and 40% condi food I still get 60% on my bleeds, 70% when I use my weapon set with Sigil of Agony. That makes my 1 skill inflict 6 and 3/4 seconds of bleeding. To be honest, a half decent opponent will cleanse before that timer runs out anyway. And if your opponent is bad, who cares about duration?

agree with cygnus
p/d roamer maybe use only one venom as he need more survivability in 1vX
so 0,0,30,20,20 build more suitable and than maybe 15%*3 runes of bleeding will be something (50%+45%= 95% duration)
but again when roaming its not the duration rather than the dmg. so more higher condition dmg is better than duration
with group its different story you need to support them as much as you can

10/0/30/0/30, but well said. I do use one venom (sometimes caltrops when I’m feeling cheesy), skale venom to cover bleeds.

Just avoid groups with a thief that uses messiah’s build.

Venoms P/D builds are the future!!
:D