Guild Wars 2

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50% stealth speed.
SoS for 25% base speed.
Evade gives 2s swiftness (mainly used for while in combat situations).
Shadowstep.

Lot’s of mobility. If you can’t land backstab and cnd over and over with this build you should just quit.

The 50% movement speed from stealth is huge. If you are in WvW and have a string of rabbit’s to kill or mosquito’s it’s faster traveling than shortbow. It’ also saved me a few times when I am about to get zerged and I hit a CnD and just run away. I can get enough distance in stealth to not get snared or rooted before I use SB.

I find people often get confused as to how I was able to land a backstab on their backside after they used evade in the opposite direction as me. They evade and I move way faster than them without having to evade. Easily lining up the backstab.

I kinda like this build. Running valk gear + zerker jewelry/weapons.

I found fighting with a zerg against a zerg this build really shines. If you know what you are doing you can CnD off the first thing you see and just fly by everyone in stealth to the back lines. Pop a CnD off on something when needed. Once you get to the last guy, gank him. Fight the zerg from behind while everyone is engaged on targets in the front. I killed a bunch of people this way last night. It was super fun. Solo thief fighting the tail end of the enemy zerg popping in and out of stealth. Crazy fun imo.

Sounds like you may just be taking advantage of the culling issue and you can get to the back of the zerg due to that. Also, it sounds like you have a very good ping if you are never lagging. If you outside the US your ping can pose a problem.

If you are always in stealth as you say, when running to the back of the zerg, why do you need SoS? I think you need to make a choice between SoS and shadowstep then and a choice between stealth run speed and SoS. If you look at it like this, then when you have stealth run speed you should have shadowstep but if you don’t have stealth run speed you can consider either SoS, shadowstep, or none of them if you go heavy burst.

Don’t forget Shadowstep removes 3 conditions on return. But SoS is probably overused a bit by most thieves (myself included). While in close combat, it’s not really useful if you have swiftness on evade and 50% in stealth. Ideally, I would keep it on when I’m running in the open field, then swap it out for something else once a battle starts.

Ravzar.6439:

Sounds like you may just be taking advantage of the culling issue and you can get to the back of the zerg due to that. Also, it sounds like you have a very good ping if you are never lagging. If you outside the US your ping can pose a problem.

Yes. I have a decent connection. AFAIK, I am not taking advantage of culling issue. I find the culling issue tends to be in favor of the zerg. Several times a zerg “spawned” on me due to culling. Using CND after stealth wears off is not taking advantage of culling.

If you are always in stealth as you say, when running to the back of the zerg, why do you need SoS? I think you need to make a choice between SoS and shadowstep then and a choice between stealth run speed and SoS. If you look at it like this, then when you have stealth run speed you should have shadowstep but if you don’t have stealth run speed you can consider either SoS, shadowstep, or none of them if you go heavy burst.

I don’t want to be burst. I want to outlast my opponent with stealth and mobility. I want to be as versatile as possible. When I get adds or I need to kite for a minute I want all mobility.

SoS turns my base run speed to 25% out of combat. In combat after evading I get 33%. When in stealth I get 50%. So no matter what happens, I have max mobility.

In sPvP I drop SoS a lot for blinding powder or scorpion wire or something else. The maps are a lot smaller and easier to move around in.

“I don’t want to be burst. I want to outlast my opponent with stealth and mobility. I want to be as versatile as possible. When I get adds or I need to kite for a minute I want all mobility.”

Sounds like you want to run a P/D Carrion build kitten /p>

Nearly my build and having great success with it. The 50% speed boost in stealth is amazing, can now use C&D (if your good at landing it) as a way to escape groups of enemies.

Scootabuser.4915:

Sounds like you want to run a P/D Carrion build kitten /p>

It does. I’ve often considered it but the problem is that if I went condition build I feel like running P/D to be more effective as condition. Problem is I don’t like killing people that slow.

I still backstab people for 4-8k. I don’t burst them down in less than 3s but I can kill them pretty quickly sometimes.