Guild Wars 2

Say, you are in stealth with C&D, is it possible to hit steal first and still get off a backstab? When I did on dummies it cancels the stealth after stealing and moves on to double strike from auto. Which is odd as I remember it working for hilt bash.

Also wondering if having mug affects it. Thanks!

Okay, Mug does damage on Steal, and anytime you do damage from stealth, your stealth is broken and you are given the revealed debuff. However, if you do the same thing without having steal traited to do damage (Mug), you will steal from them without breaking the stealth.

Also (I’m not sure about from stealth, but I think so) if you have auto attack on for Backstab, the moment you are close enough (right after the steal), the Backstab will go off. What this means is you lose that extra second to reposition yourself between the Steal > Backstab. So if they turn around between when you hit your steal, and before the backstab, you might end up stabbing them in the face, instead of the back.

Hope that helped clear things up.

ZLE.8293:

I am not sure if you understand what you are asking…
The normal way of combining C&D+Steal+BS is you hit C&D and while it’s animation is going you hit fast Steal(traited with Mug).This Stealths you and position it near the target.Next you hit BS and voila.
Now from what i can get from your question is can you first go in stealth and then Steal+BS.The answer is yes,if you do not trait Mug,and if you disable auto-attack so you can manualy hit BS to be able to position behind the target!

And there’s this. The usual setup of doing this is pre-casting Cloak and Dagger (it has a 1/2 second (.5) cast time, followed by Steal. What happens is you end up stealing from them, and right after you’ve shadowstepped with steal the CnD goes off. You take a split second, make sure you’re at their back or reposition yourself, and hit backstab.

You could also use Hidden Thief in the Shadow Arts line, to stealth you when you steal without the use of CnD. My issue with this has always been that without CnD thrown into the combination, it feels much less bursty, so I stuck with (precast)CnD>Steal>Backstab.

In either 2 of the above you can have Steal traited to Mug. As you will actually end up mugging them right before the stealth goes off.

Yes you can but if you don’t have Mug.
Also it will BS right after you Steal,so you cannot position yourself from behind.That is if you have auto-attack on.

ZLE.8293:

Yes you can but if you don’t have Mug.
Also it will BS right after you Steal,so you cannot position yourself from behind.That is if you have auto-attack on.

Im sorry but I did not understand parts of the answer. So it works if I do or don’t have mug? Is it affected my toggling auto buttons?

I am not sure if you understand what you are asking…
The normal way of combining C&D+Steal+BS is you hit C&D and while it’s animation is going you hit fast Steal(traited with Mug).This Stealths you and position it near the target.Next you hit BS and voila.
Now from what i can get from your question is can you first go in stealth and then Steal+BS.The answer is yes,if you do not trait Mug,and if you disable auto-attack so you can manualy hit BS to be able to position behind the target!